Use for Lorcin/Raven/Davis

[edison]

I think I've finally found a use for one of these inexpensive pistols. As you may know, Ohio has some rather unusual requirements if you're carrying in a motor vehicle. Assuming you actually have a CCW permit, you must carry with the handgun in plain sight. I've yet to get a good explanation of what that means, but I'm considering putting one of these cheap pistols in a cheap holster and attaching it to my passenger seatbelt. Then I could just toss the whole thing in my trunk when I get where I'm going. If I do get ripped off, I'm out a whole lot less. Plus I get to keep my real pistol with me most of the time.

edison

 

[carpettbaggerr]

Interesting idea. I know the law requires your gun to be visible while in the car, but is it written that ALL of your guns have to be visible? If you have a gun on your seat, can you have another concealed under your jacket and still be within the letter of the law?

 

[Snowdog]

Actually, I found a use for my Davis D32. I pulled a couple bullets, poured the powder back in, inserted a wad, placed them in the Davis, poured in about 3/4 of a .32 magnum case worth of #8 shot, inserted a wad from the muzzle end and converted it into a two-shot snake pistol.

I have a small creek running through my back yard, so on occasion I'll run into a snake while mowing, including copperheads. Until last month I carried my little .32 caliber "riverboat gambler" black powder derringer, but I figured the Davis loaded the way I described above will be a bit more reliable if I were to need it (not to mention offering twice the number of shots, each being more powerful than what the BP brass derringer is capable of).

So, I stick the D32 in my boot before mowing and have no worries. After testing it out on a phone book, I'm confident it's a capable snake slayer.

 

[hoji]

I've got a raven .25 I paid 20 bucks for and for scaring off dogs in my trash is is perfect.{ Got 250 rounds of ammo with the gun}

 

[magsnubby]

The Lorcin might make a neat paper weight.

 

[bogie]

Whew - whack me in the head with a bogie thumper!

$20 for a pistol, and 250 rounds of ammo?

Sounds a little warmish to me - You may wanna have your local law enforcement run the serial number. And since .25ACP likely costs at least $50/100, that might have been stolen too.

And shooting at stray dogs is not a legitimate use - you really need to take a safety course.

 

[jetman]

the Raven, Lorcins and Davis guns I've seen would be better off used as door stops than a TRUE self defense weapon. (IMHO) A friend that works at a range tells me they are all Jam-omatics...

as for the holster on the seatbelt deal. A good friends is a Columbus (OH) LEO and the law reads it must be "holstered, ON YOUR PERSON, and in plain sight. Stupid as it is, it is the law. It would NOT be a legal carry.

 

[DDGator]

I wouldn't invite trouble with a visible handgun -- and then make it a Lorcin/Raven/Davis when it comes time to meet the threat.

 

[edison]

Jetman...
I was just trying to resolve the easily visible question. Weakside carry for me would put the pistol next to the door and hamper visibility. Even strongside carry wouldn't be that visible.

I asked a local sheriff's deputy the same question and he didn't have a good answer either.


DDGator
Good point... I was thinking more as a decoy, however, as Jetman said in his post, it just ain't a good idea.

edison

 

[hoji]

No, its not hot and shame on you for making that assumption.It happens the guy hated the caliber and had lots of ammo he was never gonna use.

 

[lbmii]

Various family members of mine have had very bad experiences with Lorcin/Raven/Davis semi-auto pistols. I would steer clear of them. I know people get them because of financial reasons, but when I was drastically under-paid (broke) I had much better luck by buying older inexpensive European military pistols in the same price range as Lorcin/Raven/Davis pistols. If you are short of funds you are better off getting an old WWII German 32 auto Walther or an ugly old Italian or Russian pistol than any Lorcin/Raven/Davis semi-auto pistol. I would also consider an inexpensive break open 38 S&W from the turn of the 20th century over any Lorcin/Raven/Davis semi-auto pistol.

 

[ducktapehero]

And since .25ACP likely costs at least $50/100, that might have been stolen too.

Remind me to never buy ammo in your area

 

[Coronach]

So...let me get this straight. You are CCWing, and keep your 'main' CCW handgun on you, but you want to get an el-cheapo handgun to carry visibly, thus meeting the open carry in car requirement.

Right?

If this is correct, I have a question. How visible is the 'main' CCW gun? If it is concealed, that will still violate the law. Just adding a second gun that is not concealed would not seem to make everything OK. This is test-case type material...it may be that it would be ok. But I highly doubt it.

Also, be careful here...the law (IIRC, I don't have it in front of me) requires that the gun be in one of three places if it is loaded:

1. Locked in the 'glove box'.

2. Locked in a case, with the case in plain view.

3. On your person in plain view.

Strapped to the seatbelt of the seat next to you is...not on that list.

yes. This is a stupid provision of the law. Dumb dumb dumb.

Atticus asked a similar question in a different thread. The solution that was suggested there was a second paddle holster for you gun, tucked into your waistband at about 12 o'clock. get in car, tuck in holster, transfer gun. Drive. this has two benefits: 1. it complies with the stupid law. 2. It is very easy for seated drawing.

Mike

 

[Coronach]

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89658

As a matter of fact, I'm gonna close this thread and just refer y'all over there. It's essentially the same question.

Mike