Usefulness of drug-free zones is questioned

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What a revalation..feel good laws don't work :rolleyes: Even though the reasoning for this revalation (that the laws catch too many people of the wrong race) is flawed, it's nice to know that reality does sometimes break through to people.

I'm sorry the law is supposed to be color blind and it shouldn't matter what race is caught more violating it.

I wonder if they will apply the same logic to the gun free zones?
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...05205DF65846F7C78625713A00125EF4?OpenDocument

Usefulness of drug-free zones is questioned
By David Crary
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
03/23/2006

NEW YORK


In reaction to the crack epidemic of the 1980s, laws creating drug-free zones around schools spread nationwide. Now, questions are being raised - by legislators, activists, even law enforcement officials - about the fairness and effectiveness of those laws.

In New Jersey, Connecticut and Washington state, bills have been proposed to sharply reduce the size of the zones. A former assistant attorney general in Massachusetts reviewed hundreds of drug-free zone cases and found that less than 1 percent involved drug sales to youths.

Citing such developments, the Washington-based Justice Policy Institute is issuing a report today that contends such laws, which generally carry extra-stiff mandatory penalties, have done little to safeguard young people and are enforced disproportionately on blacks and Hispanics.


"For two decades, policymakers have mistakenly assumed that these statutes shield children from drug activity," said report co-author Judith Greene, a New York-based researcher. "We found no evidence that drug-free zone laws protect children, but ample evidence that the laws hurt communities of color."

New Jersey's sentencing review commission reached similar conclusions in December, when the panel - made up of state officials and criminal justice experts - found that students were involved in only 2 percent of the cases it examined. It said drug-free zones around schools, parks and housing projects cover virtually all of some cities, and 96 percent of offenders jailed for zone violations were black or Hispanic.

Instead of declining, drug arrests in the zones have risen steadily since the law took effect in 1987, the commission found.

A bill based on the panel's recommendation has been introduced that would reduce the zones to 200 feet from the present size of 1,000 feet around schools and 500 feet around parks and public housing. Drug dealers in the smaller zones would face five to 10 years in prison, compared to three to five years under current law - but judges would have more discretion in sentencing.

"When the overlap of zones in densely populated areas covers the entire city, the idea of special protection loses its meaning - people don't know they're in a school zone," said Ben Barlyn, a deputy attorney general and executive director of the sentencing review panel. "It would be as if we made the entire New Jersey Turnpike a reduced speed zone."
 
How do "Drug Free Zones" hurt communities of color? Wouldn't keeping drugs out of a community help it? Or are the politicans realizing that if the law actually manages to work then the "coloreds" might begin impoving themselves, getting off welfare and realizing that the Democratic Party is no friend of theirs.

And I thought the whole country was a "Drug Free Zone", does this mean I can walk down the street with 10k of 100% pure Columbian cocaine as long as I stay away from schools? Or is there a carry limit, do I need to CCL (cocaine carry license)? No wonder the "War on Drugs" has had so much trouble when people can just walk down the street with it legally.:banghead:
 
Really?

You think that dirtbags who push hard drugs to 8-year-olds DON'T turn around and run away when they see those "Drug-Free Zone" signs around schoolyards?

I mean, if the Catholic Church had only thought to put "Pedophilia-Free Zone" around churches, think of all the trouble they could have avoided!
 
Maybe they could start figuring out why so many people want drugs in the first place.

Law of supply and demand anyone? :scrutiny:
 
What's a "community of color," anyway? How can you tell if you're in one? Is it more colorful than other communities?

Do the walls look like this or something?

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DFZ's are BS

One of the teachers that tought in my high school went all over the "drug free zone" policy. He had a heart transplant and of course keeps his anti-rejection meds on him at all times. Of course these same meds COULD be abused and he chewed out the school board because technically the drug free zone didn't differentiate between legal and illegal drugs. Heck, asprin and benadryl were black market items at my school simply because you would get in trouble if you where caught having them.

/Don't get me started about zero-tolerance.:cuss:
 
It said drug-free zones around schools, parks and housing projects cover virtually all of some cities, and 96 percent of offenders jailed for zone violations were black or Hispanic.

90 percent of the totalitarian BS that goes down in this country is about controlling the 1% of crappy neighborhoods that commit like 99% of the crimes. And they knew this when they passed the laws. It is a feature, not a bug.
 
There is a program that cleans up those high crime areas. It's called 97/3 and it was devised by the chief of police of a town of about 20K near me to deal with a gang problem. It's called 97/3. It recognizes that 97% of all the citizens, even in the high crime areas are basically law abiding. It's the other 3% that cause the problems. So you take that 3% and enforce the law (you don't need need to pass any new ones, there are enough on the books already to make this work) exactly as written on those 3%. Beat them to death with fines and multiple court appearances for the little thinsg it's easy to catch them doing.

Gulliani (anti-gunner that he is) used a similar method to clean up New York City. Of course you have to be big enough to take all the political flack from advocacy groups to make it work.

Unfortunately the mayors of our crime ridden inner cities are as beholden to the gangs and their advocacy groups for political power as the mayors were beholden to the mob during prohibition.

The answer is there. Enforce the letter of the law in the high crime areas. Spend the money for the judges, courtrooms, prosecutors, public defenders and prison beds so you can handle the increased load. And have the cojones to stand up to the socialists and their advocacy groups when they start whining, kicking and screaming oppression.

Weapons bans...gun and drug free school zones....curfews...all eyewash that restricts everyone's freedom and doesn't accomplish squat....

Jeff
 
97/3 sounds good to me.

Right now, we have 3/97, because we 97% are easier and safer to catch doing something heinous like parking with a bumper one inch into a 50' red zone, and we're good for more revenue.

It would work even better if we just beat them to death, rather than doing so metaphorically, but I'll take what I can get.

Libertarian that I am, I still have absolutely no mercy for those whose lives are organized around horrifically violent crime, often committed without even a significant motive.

Ever read memoirs of ex-gangbangers? They're supposed to make you feel sorry for people "in that environment". All the stories ever did for me was change me into a strong advocate for the death penalty.
 
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