The Deer Hunter
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I have seen the way to do it with lifting the top one to push the others down, but how else can you do it? I saw Enemy at the Gates and the guy pushes them down with like the center of his thumb, which made me think.
Using the MN stripper clips
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Cosmoline
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This method should work in all Mosins, using good quality clips. Some mosins are less sensitive about getting the rims lined up. The key is to pull back on the top cartridge and push down, which rams the others in without mauling your fingers and leaves the top cartridge ready to get pushed into battery.
Another method is to grip the magazine with your fingers and wrap your thumb around the cartridge stack, then squeeze.
Another method is to grip the magazine with your fingers and wrap your thumb around the cartridge stack, then squeeze.
Jeremy2171
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With "real" stripper clips just use your thumb and shove them in...works everytime.
You don't have to "stack" the rims or anything, just load the rounds in the clip and insert them in rifle then use your thumb and shove them down in the mag.
You don't have to "stack" the rims or anything, just load the rounds in the clip and insert them in rifle then use your thumb and shove them down in the mag.
Here is another web site that talks about the proper loading technique using the stripper clips.
http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com/ammo.htm
Also states that the rifles were not intended for use with the heavy ball ammo.
And yet another cool feature. If you go the the home page you will be graced with some inspirational Russian music. Ahh, reminds me of my days in St. Petersburg visiting the Czar's palaces.
http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com/ammo.htm
Also states that the rifles were not intended for use with the heavy ball ammo.
And yet another cool feature. If you go the the home page you will be graced with some inspirational Russian music. Ahh, reminds me of my days in St. Petersburg visiting the Czar's palaces.
Cosmoline
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No no. He's talking about the special aircraft machine gun ammo. It's very rare. Heavy 200 grain ball is absolutely standard for Soviet Mosins and "D" bore Finns.
Jeremy2171
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All of the 54r ammo is safe for the Mosins. Even the much vaunted ShKas ammo. Russian literature has ShKas ammo broken into two or three categories depending upon that particular lot's QC chart.
IIRC:
Grade 1 was for synchronized MGs firing through propellers.
Grade 2 was for "other" aircraft MGs
Grade 3 was strictly for ground troops as it wasn't considered reliable enough for A/C use.
The only heavy ball is the Russian "D" round which is ~180grns depending upon who made it.
The Finnish "D" round (for D-166) is a 200grn bullet. If you have a "D" stamp on your Mosin it was in Finn service at some point and had the throat modified for the D-166 round as it's ogive was much farther foward than other 54r ammo.
IIRC:
Grade 1 was for synchronized MGs firing through propellers.
Grade 2 was for "other" aircraft MGs
Grade 3 was strictly for ground troops as it wasn't considered reliable enough for A/C use.
The only heavy ball is the Russian "D" round which is ~180grns depending upon who made it.
The Finnish "D" round (for D-166) is a 200grn bullet. If you have a "D" stamp on your Mosin it was in Finn service at some point and had the throat modified for the D-166 round as it's ogive was much farther foward than other 54r ammo.
I just took a look at my Finn 28/30 and its got a "D" stamp. Out of curiosity, where would one go to get the 200 grain projectiles? Or what diameter bullet would one reload with to develop a close fascimile?
I'm just getting into reloading (still doing a lot of reading). I could see the benefit for me to plan to load 200 grain-ish in my mosin. I have 100-167 grain covered with other rifles.
John
I'm just getting into reloading (still doing a lot of reading). I could see the benefit for me to plan to load 200 grain-ish in my mosin. I have 100-167 grain covered with other rifles.
John
Jeremy2171
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Only one place....LAPUA. They are still making the D-166 bullets in Finland and Midway used to carry them, probably Grafs as well.
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