Standing Wolf
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If they want my guns, they'll have to accept the ammunition first.
Value of 200 million firearms?
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michiganfan
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Moparmike Hey dude when are you going to get a gun? I know you are one of us. So come on board. Lock and load.
Moparmike
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Probably when I get my student loans. I am currently looking at an old 8mm Mauser. I would like to save up and have my parents buy me a Llama Max-1 .45 acp (friend of mine swears by his). Only trouble with a 45 is the ammo price, even in bulk where I am looking. I will do some more looking tonight though.
S_O_Laban
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Mtnbkr LOL ( I wasn't going to say anything but I see you did
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Ole R L Emery might have something to say about coming to get them melons
) Ole R L Emery might have something to say about coming to get them melons
Moparmike
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How expensive is it to get started in reloading? I mean from empty garage table to finished round.
Art Eatman
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Mopar, by shopping around gunshows for good used stuff, you can find a "C" or "O" press, a set of dies and powder scales for maybeso $150, and possibly a bit less. The seller commonly with throw in the miscellaneous "stuff" you'll also find handy. A pound of rifle powder will cost some $20. 100 hunting bullets for around $15, +/-. You can often find brass at a range; clean and resize it. Or, gunstores often have once-fired brass for five to eight cents.
Back to the thread: I've always sorta figured some $400 per gun, average overall. Multiply that by 200 million and you have more than my mommy gives me for an allowance. Eighty billion? I don't really think that'll happen.
And if you force a court suit for each and every gun, under the requirements for Eminent Domain purchases, it could not only be a higher average price per gun, the feds would have to pay the court costs. Let the Congressfolks explain THAT tax increase to their constituents.
, Art
Back to the thread: I've always sorta figured some $400 per gun, average overall. Multiply that by 200 million and you have more than my mommy gives me for an allowance. Eighty billion? I don't really think that'll happen.
And if you force a court suit for each and every gun, under the requirements for Eminent Domain purchases, it could not only be a higher average price per gun, the feds would have to pay the court costs. Let the Congressfolks explain THAT tax increase to their constituents.
, Artmtnbkr
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I think it cost my dad about $200 to buy the hardware to load two calibers. This didn't include consumables though. He bought a Lee turret press after using mine. The kit he bought included everything he needed for one caliber (Turret Press, dies, scale, trimming tools, powder measure, etc). All he had to buy in addition was the other set of dies, another powder measure, and a turret plate.
Just to veer offtopic for a sec, my dad wasn't even a shooter three years ago. Now he has three guns of his own and reloads for two of them. I'm such a bad influence
Chris
Moparmike
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Cool. Too bad the milsurp ammo is bordan primed and not boxer primed. That is too much work.
Back to thread: I dont care if they are offering me $1000 for a $100 Mauser or a $30 Crapola (c) plinker bb-gun. As far as I am concerned they will be asked nicely to take their money and spend it on something useful, like a rifle, and leave my property. If they persist, they will be introduced to my gun. IF that doesnt pursuade them to leave, they might be introduced to the product of rapidly expanding gasses against lead. Then they see how well they dance.
"Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight..."
Sorry, I sort of thought that last thing was appropriate for some reason ...
Back to thread: I dont care if they are offering me $1000 for a $100 Mauser or a $30 Crapola (c) plinker bb-gun. As far as I am concerned they will be asked nicely to take their money and spend it on something useful, like a rifle, and leave my property. If they persist, they will be introduced to my gun. IF that doesnt pursuade them to leave, they might be introduced to the product of rapidly expanding gasses against lead. Then they see how well they dance.
"Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight..."
Sorry, I sort of thought that last thing was appropriate for some reason
...BerettaNut92
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What about the entertainment industry? They always get a pass.
Um...when only police have guns, that's what we call a police state. Duh.
socialists.I just thought of something hilarious:
The same unwashed hippie moron communists who are anti-2A desperately want only the police to have guns, yet they constantly complain about the "increasing militarization" of the police and complain about "harrassment" during their riots...er..."demonstrations."
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
cslinger
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Let's see.
Let's call the average firearm price about $500 that should take into conderation the real cheapies and the big buck mult thousand bad boys.
So 200,000,000 x $500 = 1,000,000,000,000 or in that neighborhood.
I wish them all the luck.
Let's call the average firearm price about $500 that should take into conderation the real cheapies and the big buck mult thousand bad boys.
So 200,000,000 x $500 = 1,000,000,000,000 or in that neighborhood.
I wish them all the luck.
Bostonterrier97
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200 Million Firearms
Average Cost per firearm = $400
Total Cost of Buy back = 80 BILLION DOLLARS
Hmmmmm....seems like it would be about a third of what we spend on National Defense every year..
I don't think the Anti's would be willing to not only fork over the money
or pay for it in ....uhhhh...."higher currency"
Average Cost per firearm = $400
Total Cost of Buy back = 80 BILLION DOLLARS
Hmmmmm....seems like it would be about a third of what we spend on National Defense every year..
I don't think the Anti's would be willing to not only fork over the money
or pay for it in ....uhhhh...."higher currency"
The cost of collecting the guns should be taken into account as well. I suppose the government could manage the confiscation with existing organizations (I mean using ATF rather than create a Office of Civilian Disarmament or some such), but they'll have to have more people. How much is the recruiting, training and such going to cost them?
TallPine
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Not to mention the rate of "attrition" of the personnel
Smoke
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Assinine! Idiotic! Moronic!
If they are going to buy my guns, they have to buy my accessories as well. Holsters, cases, safes, rangebags, my supply of ammo, reloading equipment, scopes, trap machine, cleaning kits, rags, chemicals, clothing, glasses, ear muffs, ear plugs, ......
Just cut me a check for $2.5 Million today and UI'll send it all to ya.
If they are going to buy my guns, they have to buy my accessories as well. Holsters, cases, safes, rangebags, my supply of ammo, reloading equipment, scopes, trap machine, cleaning kits, rags, chemicals, clothing, glasses, ear muffs, ear plugs, ......
Just cut me a check for $2.5 Million today and UI'll send it all to ya.
Something else, imagine all the paper work that would generate and how much that would cost. Since Art mentioned the fact that people could take it to court, imagine how much more paper work it would create if only 10% of gun owners chose to go to court.
Smoke
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You know...a little editing is all their petition needed:
We, the people, are tired of having our schools invaded by
psychotic youngsters. We, the people, are tired of being
robbed of our political leaders by some psychotic with a gun
or a rifle. We, the people, are tired of passing through
metal detectors on our way to our courts and our
governmental buildings. We, the people, are tired of
being victimized by gun carrying criminals.
While there are many long term solutions that would
decrease the number of outlaw gun operators, there will
always be an unacceptable number of non-compliant gun
operators in a country with a population of 250 million
people. We, the people, are faced with only two choices.
One is to place guards, metal detectors, and other devices
designed to invade the personal liberties of the citizens at
every single place where the public gathers. The other
alternative is to arm every citizen of the
United States of America. Given that we must choose from
one of these two choices, we, the people, choose to arm all
the people from the United States of America.
We, the people, therefore call upon you, our elected
representatives, to enact legislation to provide enough guns and
firearms to all private citizens. We, the people, call upon
you, our elected representatives, to enact laws to:
1. Create a one year period for the United States of America
to purchase at fair market value all guns and firearms,
including hand guns, rifles, and even antique guns and
rifles to supply domestic private ownership.
2. Support and defend the domestic sale of guns and
firearms, whether new or used.
3. Return or resell any gun or firearm found after the
termination of the purchase period without hesitation.
4. Prohibit and criminalize the domestic non-possession of a
gun or firearm after the termination of the one year
purchase period.
5. Provide exemptions for governmental law enforcement
agencies, the armed services, and bona fide museums.
We, the people, are tired of having our schools invaded by
psychotic youngsters. We, the people, are tired of being
robbed of our political leaders by some psychotic with a gun
or a rifle. We, the people, are tired of passing through
metal detectors on our way to our courts and our
governmental buildings. We, the people, are tired of
being victimized by gun carrying criminals.
While there are many long term solutions that would
decrease the number of outlaw gun operators, there will
always be an unacceptable number of non-compliant gun
operators in a country with a population of 250 million
people. We, the people, are faced with only two choices.
One is to place guards, metal detectors, and other devices
designed to invade the personal liberties of the citizens at
every single place where the public gathers. The other
alternative is to arm every citizen of the
United States of America. Given that we must choose from
one of these two choices, we, the people, choose to arm all
the people from the United States of America.
We, the people, therefore call upon you, our elected
representatives, to enact legislation to provide enough guns and
firearms to all private citizens. We, the people, call upon
you, our elected representatives, to enact laws to:
1. Create a one year period for the United States of America
to purchase at fair market value all guns and firearms,
including hand guns, rifles, and even antique guns and
rifles to supply domestic private ownership.
2. Support and defend the domestic sale of guns and
firearms, whether new or used.
3. Return or resell any gun or firearm found after the
termination of the purchase period without hesitation.
4. Prohibit and criminalize the domestic non-possession of a
gun or firearm after the termination of the one year
purchase period.
5. Provide exemptions for governmental law enforcement
agencies, the armed services, and bona fide museums.
LostOneToo
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The overall worth is "Freedom"..can they write a check for that????
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