Vang Comp shell carrier installation on Mossberg 500

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I bought a Vang Comp shell carrier a few weeks ago and finally opened the package today to install it. Behold, there were no instructions. That is a little frustrating to me for a $100 part.

I'm 80 percent confident that I could figure it out myself, but I hate guessing my way through the installation of aftermarket parts. That leaves me with the nagging feeling that I might be doing something wrong.

Does anyone have one installed on a Mossberg 500? I'd appreciate some pictures of the side of the shotgun that has the ejection port with the bolt all the way to the rear.
 
We could probably figure it out along with you if you like. Many of the side saddles Available attach using a replacement ejector screw and a longer bolt/screw That takes the place of a receiver pin. Does your kit include that type of hardware?

here is how you install a cheaper side-saddle in case it helps. Don’t forget the loc tite.

 
@JudgeHolden10

The blued shotgun is a 500, the other is a 590. Neither have the current velcro shell holder (my wife’s 590 may be set that way, but no way in #### am I going to root around in her closet while she is asleep on Mothers Day). I will be happy to check the other shotgun this afternoon, if you need me to. Let me know if these answer your questions.

As an aside, I have had a lot of work done by Hans. Even if there has been a hickup, he has always been a pleasure. If all else fails, call him.

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@rabid wombat and @1KPerDay, thank you.

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Vang Comp supplied a long stainless screw that is only threaded on the last 1/8" or so. That appears to replace the receiver pin that goes through the trigger group (labeled A in the picture above). There is another part that looks like a screw but, if I am recalling correctly, is not threaded. I believe that's the part that is labeled B in the picture.

It's not super-complicated, obviously, but I really want to make sure this is installed correctly on an HD shotgun.

I need to go cut the grass, but I'll post some pictures later.
 
@JudgeHolden10

Cool! I hope it helps.

Separately, did you get any other Vang work?

One definite add, change the safety. The Mossberg is plastic, and will break. Vang’s is either aluminum or steel (I cannot remember). I ended up removing the broken plastic one in a duck blind when hunting a number of years ago. Not a lot of fun, when the best you can do is having your hunting buddy hold his hands under the gun so you do not drop any bit in thigh deep water.

I really like the comp system, but it is not for everybody.

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Make sure you don’t really crank on the screw/pin that goes through the receiver. If you tighten it too much you can actually crush the receiver and impair bolt travel
 
@rabid wombat, I'm going to drop a line to Vang Comp tomorrow and get a torque spec. I have a torque driver specifically for working on firearms (mostly mounting scopes), and it would work perfectly in this scenario. I'm a big fan of good documentation, and that is exactly the sort thing that I would want to see in it.
 
@JudgeHolden10

cool! Do not be surprised if there is no spec on the torque. Several points: this retains the trigger group (no load other than shear), this retains the shell holder (mostly tension, a little shear), and torque is measured against a “spring”. The housing is hollow where the long bolt goes through. Yes, the trigger housing should make it solid, but I think the 500 trigger housing is plastic. Basically, if the bolt is retained with no looseness - it is doing its job.

According to https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-shotgun-disassembly-guide-by-mini-me.423402/, “To remove the trigger group requires a pin punch. I find that the easiest thing to use if you don't have one handy is a common nail. If you're worried about scratching the end of the pin, file down the sharp tip. My experience is to go left-to-right and push the pin all the way out of the receiver.”

In short, you are replacing a pin pressed into place.
 
rabid wombat said:
@JudgeHolden10

Cool! I hope it helps.

Separately, did you get any other Vang work?

One definite add, change the safety. The Mossberg is plastic, and will break. Vang’s is either aluminum or steel (I cannot remember). I ended up removing the broken plastic one in a duck blind when hunting a number of years ago. Not a lot of fun, when the best you can do is having your hunting buddy hold his hands under the gun so you do not drop any bit in thigh deep water.

I really like the comp system, but it is not for everybody.

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So, I ordered a safety from Brownells a number of months ago because I had read about that issue with the plastic safeties. I installed that today as well. It took me forever. The little ball detent kept slipping around and fell into a tiny hole in my workbench. Thankfully, I had a magnetic screwdriver. Anyway, the safety is on there now, and it is a huge upgrade over the crappy plastic one.

As for the other Vang work, I only bought the shell carrier. I am kicking around a custom shotgun later in 2020 if the economy is humming along well enough. Dark green Cerakote, NP3+ on the internals, Surefire forend...okay, I am dreaming, but what the heck. :D

1KPerDay said:
Make sure you don’t really crank on the screw/pin that goes through the receiver. If you tighten it too much you can actually crush the receiver and impair bolt travel
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Message received. I tightened it only hand tight, and I didn't crank on it. Thanks!

A total aside: I learned to shoot on pump shotguns. I love all types of shooting, but there's something so nice about the versatility of a good 12 gauge that always brings me back.
 
JudgeHolden10 said:
So, I ordered a safety from Brownells a number of months ago because I had read about that issue with the plastic safeties. I installed that today as well. It took me forever. The little ball detent kept slipping around and fell into a tiny hole in my workbench. Thankfully, I had a magnetic screwdriver. Anyway, the safety is on there now, and it is a huge upgrade over the crappy plastic one.
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the biggest weakness of a Mossberg....I did mange to remove a safety of a 500 in a duck blind when I broke the plastic bit.

keep an eye on the Vang site, he sometimes has sales. I think I have 5 he has worked on, though never a full workup . Surefire front ends, and ported barrels...great stuff. The new Surefire in LED is much better than incandescent. Combined with Federal flight-control buck...wicked. I am very happy.

as for the NP3, Robar stopped taking individual business on their coating....
 
rabid wombat said:
the biggest weakness of a Mossberg....I did mange to remove a safety of a 500 in a duck blind when I broke the plastic bit.

keep an eye on the Vang site, he sometimes has sales. I think I have 5 he has worked on, though never a full workup . Surefire front ends, and ported barrels...great stuff. The new Surefire in LED is much better than incandescent.
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I'll keep an eye on the site. I am subscribed to the newsletter.

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Combined with Federal flight-control buck...wicked. I am very happy.
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Yeah, that stuff is good. I should have bought a case before it became unobtanium.

rabid wombat said:
as for the NP3, Robar stopped taking individual business on their coating....
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There's another shop that took over for Robar. Wright, or something like that. It is kind of sad, though. Robar did an AR-15 bolt for me, and the work was flawless.
 
If you have a link of the new “Robar”, I would really appreciate it. They did my 590 after Vang...I really like their work...
 
The definition of “box” changes with time. It used to be 5, 25, or 50....now it is 250, 500, 1000, or 5000....
 
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