Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Istvan, May 18, 2014.
Revolvers in .30 carbine ...
Istvan: Before you choose, read this if you haven't already:
It isn't the most popular caliber for the large frame Freedom Arms and one can pick them up used for reasonable prices with some patience. It will get you to 150 yards and will hold up to "max" loads for a couple of lifetimes. fwiw, dvnv
32-20. 150 yards is quite a ways for a revolver but the 32-20 for me is a tack driver. With a custom made cylinder it would be a awesome performer.
I just don't understand your comment about age and finances putting it on hold.
What about the Smith and Wesson 647? Might be a bit underpowered, but man it would be a hoot to shoot.
I thought about the 647. I am a smith guy but I have not been impressed with accuracy reviews
One problem with this suggestion
They are cataclysmicly LOUD!!!
I had one for a spell, it was WAY WAY too loud for a walking gun and didn't really do anything 357 mag doesn't do with lighter bullets and half the blast and concussion
My vote is for the lightweight wonder that is the s&w 386xl
Thanks again for all the replies and opinions(keep them coming if you have them!). Very interesting reading about the .357 Freedom Arms, dvnv. I didn’t realise they could be loaded to that level. I am starting to think, as most seem to agree, that the .357 is probably the closest I’m going to get, for what I am trying to achieve. I had given though to the .32-20 as well, as was suggested, but I think that out of a revolver, there’s nothing the .32-20 can do, that the .357 can’t do, and probably cheaper/easier to reload.
For safety, that would be Taffin loads in the 353 only. If u are not familiar with the FA guns, the 353 is a 5 shot built on the same frame as their 454. I would not run them in the standard FA 97 357, (smith/ruger included)
I store my monster 357 loads in a red box, well marked for the 353 only.
I just re-read an article by John Lachuck on the .44 Mag, and got a good chuckle.
John is an ex ".44 Associates" member (guys who hot roded .44's before the Magnum). 10 years before Remington, he created his own ".44 Lancer" based on cut down .405 and .30-40 brass (@ 1.280).
When the "Real Thing" reached stores, he skipped one week of lunch and bought a box.
Upon shooting it to compare with his own, he "couldn't tell any difference.... and the terminal effect on rabbits, etc., appeared to be identical."
So, can you hit a charging rabbit with a .44 ?
Funny you should mention the .44, mackg. Some years ago I had a S&W 629 topped with a 4x scope. I had a surplus of Hornady 300gr ammo at the time, and decided to try an afternoon of groundhog hunting for giggles and grins. Unfortunately I only managed to get in 1 short for the afternoon, and even more unfortunate, I missed(about 140 yards). Aside from the excessive blast and recoil, it was more like an exercise in artillery shooting with the drop at that range. I never tried again lol.
One of the main reasons I was originally looking for some sort of .24-.25 calibre wildcat chambering was the idea of a very flat shooting, fast stepping revolver, without the excessive recoil. I once thought the .357 maximum would have been ideal until I read about all of the issues it had. I am warming to the thought of the .353 Casull, which seems like it would just about duplicate the .357 maximum(if I'm reading correctly). I also still like the idea of Gary Reeder's chambering's in .240 Banshee, and .255 Banshee. The following is from Gary's website:
"The 255 Banshee is a 22 Hornet case necked up to 25 caliber and puts a 75 grain bullet out at approximately 2100 FPS. The second Banshee caliber is the 240 Banshee which is a 22 Hornet case necked up to .243 and putting a 75 grain bullet out also at about 2100 FPS."
I'm just not very familiar with these and unsure they would suite any better than a fast-stepping .357
I remember buying a gun mag with an article "with loads specific to the Casull 353", and being very disappointed to find these same loads already printed in various manuals like the free Hodgdon booklet.
I think you can just put that much lead and powder in a given space.
An interesting caliber was/is the 360 Dan Wesson, somewhere between the Mag and the Max cases in size, which was chambered in a few D.W. standard big (44) frames, (not the max one). Starline had brass for a while.
Since you're talking 20-something calibers at 2000 fps, have a look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM (LEE wrote on their website that they made dies but only for one retailer)
Not minute of skunk or revolver friendly, but dies should be reasonably priced.
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