Vermont Carry Law (or lack of)

[Flyboy]

A few days late, but still topical:

Here in NH, we have property taxes that would turn your hair white. Car registration costs far more here than anywhere else I ever heard about. I can list a bunch more, but there is no point. Many people point at us like we are some kind of example to follow (no sales or income tax) but let me tell you, they get you in other ways, and in amounts you wouldn't believe. There is only a "New Hampshire advantage" if you are very wealthy, with enough income so that your property taxes are far more affordable than an income tax would be.
I pay over 4 grand a year in property tax for a 1 story, 2 bedroom house.
My car costs over $400 a year to register, and I know people who pay $800 to register 4WD F250's.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/468.html
NH has the second-lowest state and local tax burden as a percentage of income of any state in the country. It's been one of the five lowest for the past decade.

NH looks more and more appealing every day.

 

[Art Eatman]

Enough about taxes; back to the thread, please...

Art

 

[mattx109]

From a Vermonter

Vermont's stance on carry is excellent, certainly. I've carried since it was legal for me to do so and have never once had a problem. No ambiguity about how one needs to carry in a vehicle, or confusion about whether or not a "no firearms" sign is to code.

That said, Vermont's politics are varied. There isn't a north-south division as some have stated; the division is vague. The mayor of Burlington, Clavelle, is a progressive, but he's on his way out. The chances that a conservative will be voted in are slim. Burlington's population is quite liberal. Between here and Canada there's a striking absence of that viewpoint, and in the rural southern and northeastern parts of the state it's the same. The urban (if you can really call them that) areas tend to see the largest liberal influence, but it's mostly around Burlington.

A lot of the people who might oppose Vermont's carry stance don't really seem to know much about it. It's a non-issue here on the street. Bring it up with a high-income Burlingtonian unfamiliar with the laws and you're likely to get a wide-eyed look of disbelief, and maybe a few words of disagreement, but nothing more. We don't have the high crime rates needed by carry opponents to convince the general public of their views.

 

[Cosmoline]

Cosmoline: I agree with you here 100%...all three states are being invaded by the flatlanders, but there is some hope... all three, VT, NH, and ME, have a sort of dividing line, north/south, where the southern parts of the states seem to be liberal Democrat bastions, and the northern parts conservative republican... .

I saw the same thing happen to my former home state of Oregon, as more and more and more and more Kalifornian scum infiltrated the state. There are patches of the old Oregon, but they are getting fewer and fewer. Bend, which was a logging town when I was growing up, is now a yuppified upscale subdivision. Ashland might as well be in California. The bulk of the valley has gone over to the enemy. I can't even stand being back there now.

 

[Silver Bullet]

Who was governor of Vermont throughout the establishment of most of these standards?
Howard Dean.
Not bad for a so-called left-wing liberal.

Sounds like he had sense enough to stay back out of the way while people with skills and vision went to work. Unusual for a socialist.

You're right: "not bad" !

 

[Camp David]

Vermont's stance on carry is excellent, certainly. I've carried since it was legal for me to do so and have never once had a problem. No ambiguity about how one needs to carry in a vehicle, or confusion about whether or not a "no firearms" sign is to code.

That said, Vermont's politics are varied. There isn't a north-south division as some have stated; the division is vague. The mayor of Burlington, Clavelle, is a progressive, but he's on his way out. The chances that a conservative will be voted in are slim. Burlington's population is quite liberal. Between here and Canada there's a striking absence of that viewpoint, and in the rural southern and northeastern parts of the state it's the same. The urban (if you can really call them that) areas tend to see the largest liberal influence, but it's mostly around Burlington.

A lot of the people who might oppose Vermont's carry stance don't really seem to know much about it. It's a non-issue here on the street. Bring it up with a high-income Burlingtonian unfamiliar with the laws and you're likely to get a wide-eyed look of disbelief, and maybe a few words of disagreement, but nothing more. We don't have the high crime rates needed by carry opponents to convince the general public of their views.

Matt... Thanks for your post but I humbly disagree... I think you confirmed yourself (see highlighted portion of your post above) that Montpelier and Burlington's progressive and largely anti-gun policies are not shared by communities to the north (Milton, St. Albans, Highgate, etc.) thus my point about a seeming dividing line in the state....wherein pro-gun support is high. Try following the state's law to the letter and wearing a gun down Main Street in Montpelier or Barre (!)... you would not get far... yet this is common practice in St. Albans, Swanton, and points north east: Fairfax, Cambridge, Jeffersonville, etc. ! Thus I feel the dividing line in state is a valid observation....