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Vermont is going Down

Discussion in 'Legal' started by nhcruffler, Mar 29, 2018.

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  1. AlexanderA
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    It's toothless as regards someone who has his wits about him. Just as people in Virginia know better than to drive directly home after visiting a liquor store in D.C. or Maryland.
    Misdemeanor conviction. Ergo, a person wouldn't lose his gun rights. Not much of a deterrent.
     
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    It may be unenforceable but it is a small step.
    Liberal judges and small steps are the lefts favorite paths.
     
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    That's tax evasion not the fact that liquor is illegal in VA. Now if they slapped a $50.00 tax on hi-cap mags in VT, I can imagine the cops sitting across the border.
    But what is to stop someone from having friends and/or families in states were hi-cap mags are legal to purchase ship them to friends and/or families in VT? Cannot see any legal problem with the shipper, receiver might have a problem. But if a gift? Just wondering, sure does no apply to me in Idaho.
     
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    No. It's well established that in general a confiscation of contraband is not a "taking of property for public use" requiring compensation under the Fifth Amendment. See, for example:

    • Bennis v. Michigan, 516 U.S. 442 (1996)

    • Tate v. Dist. of D.C., 627 F.3d 904, 393 U.S.App.D.C. 270 (D.C. Cir., 2010)

    • Acadia Technology, Inc. v. U.S., 458 F.3d 1327 (Fed. Cir., 2006)
     
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    That may have been true before 1975 or so. But now VT is the "control group" for the Free State Project... it's the socialists that moved to Vermont that put in Bernie, and it's the recent FSP immigrants to NH that are the most anti-gun-control (and pro- free market) faction in the NH House.
     
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    Illegal to receive under 4021a
     
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    So it's toothless for the sneaky law breaker?

    Now that PPTs go thru FFLs now and std cap mags are only grandfathered, you'd have to be a sneaky law breaker to get the mag in (since yoy cant lawfully transfer) and hedge your bet that you won't get caught or if you do at a later date, your lie that you bought std cap mags before the date of the law in anticipation of you buying the gun later after the law and your used gun PPT/FFL or new gun thru FFL was recorded
     
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    Bad for those in VT.
     
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    The penalty is a misdemeanor- less than one year in prison and/or $500 fine for magazines, $1000 for bump stocks.

    But I'll add that the Vermont Department of Public Safety doesn't have nearly the budget of the Virginia Department of Liquor Control, and if they were found wasting resources on this while police response times in rural areas are best measured on a desk calendar, there would be hell to pay.

    Actually, the police response times in rural areas are the best argument against S55. It's not like there's any pretense that the police can protect you here.
     
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  11. Fine Figure of a Man

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    The same can almost always be said everywhere.