vertical grip on pistol?

[badbadtz560]

I wouldn't dare to try it for legal and/or expense reasons.. but it seems like it would help w/ muzzle climb a lot.. possibly help w/ shooting the handgun a lot in general...

so.. anybody ever try it? did you shoot better? or could you empty the clip w/ a lot more accuracy?

Of course we're already assuming that you did your AOW before tryin it out.. and anything else if required.

 

[kanook]

I've used them. I would consider them useless on any pistol other then FA. If it works for you, great. junk to me.

 

[Sam1911]

A vertical fore-grip on a semi-auto pistol is a complete waste.

Shoot with the proper two-hand grip and you'll be far more accurate and far faster, and have a much more natural point of aim than you would ever have with a forward grip on such a small gun.

Think about it this way: There's no need to reinvent the wheel. If a forward grip on an autopistol had ANY advantages, some military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters would use them. None do. (Except for machine pistols, which are uncommonly useless anyway, and submachine guns which are fired from the shoulder when a forward grip works.)

If you can't point to some "professional" shooters, anywhere, who have found this addition to help them achieve faster hits or more accuracy with their sidearms -- thus protecting their lives or winning matches -- you probably don't have to spend your time and money proving it once more.

-Sam

 

[greyson97]

ugh. I had one for my glock 22. My groupings were so good. and then I found out they weren't exactly kosher without paperwork and a tax stamp, so I had to take it off and my groupings actually suffered.

at the range, noone ever questioned me about it. I guiess they naturally assumed I had the paperwork.

But yeah, I'm actually considering, once ive bought all the guns on my short list, to get the tax stamp and put the foregrip back on, and a stock too.

i guess i got bit by a mall ninja....

 

[2 Samuel 22]

I agree with Sam1911. No need for a VFG on a handgun. A possible exception to this would be something like an AR pistol. But again that would be classified as an AOW with a VFG attached.

 

[Sam1911]

I agree with Sam1911. No need for a VFG on a handgun. A possible exception to this would be something like an AR pistol. But again that would be classified as an AOW with a VFG attached

Yeah, that's a different animal because we all understand that an AR-15 pistol or an AK pistol is not REALLY a handgun, though it is built as one and falls under the legal definition of one. You cannot wield one quickly and accurately with a traditional pistol grip and stance. The forward grip can help you make the best of what is truly an awkward arm. Now, put a butt-stock on it and you have a very handly little carbine. Totally different animal than a 1911, Glock, xD, M&P, etc.

A sidearm, like a standard-configuration auto-pistol has a very well developed -- I'd even say perfected -- manual of arms that allows the trained user to make accurate hits in astonishingly short amounts of time. A vertical foregrip not only has no place in that, but is distinctly detrimental to it.

I had one for my glock 22. My groupings were so good... I had to take it off and my groupings actually suffered

If this is true, you need to spend some serious time learning to shoot your weapon. A good instructor could show you how to improve your techniqe.

-Sam

 

[Landpimp]

they work well on MP5K's

 

[Sam1911]

they work well on MP5K's

Yeah, that's my point. To control muzzle climb on a full-auto machine pistol or sub-machine gun they are useful. To help provide a firm, natural grip on a close-quarters type carbine fired from the shoulder, many users have had great results.

But, make that MP5K a semi-auto, with no butt stock and a forward vertical grip, and a good pistol shooter will smoke the MP5 with a Glock, M&P, xD, or just about any other modern sidearm.

Heck, seeing as full-auto fire is usually less effective than semi- at getting accurate hits on target I think we could even remove the "semi-auto only" restriction from that test. Target aquiring and transitions are just going to suck with that sub gun, and the double-tap splits on each target aren't going to be different enough with the two weapons to make up for that delay.

For close-quarters shooting -- inside of 25 yds -- a handgun is pretty hard to beat for speed.

-Sam