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VERY disappointed

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by MachIVshooter, Feb 23, 2013.

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  1. MachIVshooter

    MachIVshooter Member

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    The turnout today at the Colorado capital in Denver was no where near what I had expected. I hope it was better in others cities.

    If you gripe about gun control but could not be bothered to attend these rallies across the country, then SHAME ON YOU!

    Some folks have legitimate excuses, but the day of resistance has been planned for a month, and was a whopping 2 hour commitment. Very few people can't dedicate a half-day with that much notice. And I don't want to hear "I didn't know about it"; it's been all over the social networking sites, and ya'll should have been searching regularly for scheduled pro RKBA demonstrations anyway.

    I'm ticked right now. For all the whining about proposed gun control on this forum alone, I would have expected overwhelming crowds.

    If you blew off these demonstrations, haven't written congresscritters or have otherwise done nothing more than gripe in conversation or on internet bulletin boards, you'll have no one to blame but yourself if this garbage passes in your state or at the federal level.

    Laziness will be our undoing this time.

    /rant off
     
  2. jerkface11

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    Yeah how dare us have jobs families and lives.
     
  3. X-JaVeN-X

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    That's a cop out... If you can't plan two hours out of your month for something you believe in, then maybe you don't really believe it. Now, if you don't really care, than that is your prerogative. However, if you are going to gripe and complain, then walk the walk too.

    Thanks OP...some people need to hear the truth whether they like it or not.
     
  4. Larry Ashcraft

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    We were at Angela Giron's Town Hall Meeting at the Pueblo Library. Awesome turnout of 400-500, and not an anti among them.

    I just hope we did some good. She seems pretty thick, but "Would you like to have a chance to be elected again?" may have gotten through.
     
  5. jerkface11

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    Yeah it's a cop out. I don't need to pay the rent or put food on the table.
     
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    I went to a rally in January at the capitol building in Harrisburg, PA. and there was probably less than 150 people there.

    Very disappointing indeed.
     
  7. BlkLtng02

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    Sorry I couldn't make it. I was in Evergreen letting Senator Jeanne Nicholson know how I feel about all the new Gun Control laws. The turnout was about 90 pro gun to 4 anti gun.
     
  8. MachIVshooter

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    Please.

    I run my own business, am raising twin girls of 2-1/2 years and have plenty of things I'd rather be doing that standing on the side of the road in front of the capitol holding a sign for half the day.

    This is more important. Period.

    You better hope I don't find quotes from you flaming companies who haven't refused LE sales because they put their business and employee's paycheck ahead of politics.
     
  9. X-JaVeN-X

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    so do I...and I have a family...and I live pay check to pay check...what's your excuse again?
     
  10. jerkface11

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    You run your own business so you're your own boss. So don't sit there and tell me I can just take off on the busiest day of the week. Maybe you should turn the self righteous indignation off.
     
  11. taliv

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    heck, i wrote all of CO's state reps and senators and I live over 1000 miles east. local turnouts for 2A rallies in TN have been quite good.
     
  12. X-JaVeN-X

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    I don't own my own business...and I took off (so did my wife btw). I'm sure you've taken off work for many things before be it a Dr.'s appointment or just cause you wanted to get some work caught up around the house or just to do nothing all day and stare at the television. If you can take off time for any of the above, then you can take off a couple hours to support something you believe. Again...maybe you just don't care that much, and that is absolutely your call and I can't argue you for that. The problem is when you play the excuse game when too many other people could have easily used the same reasoning to not go, but instead found a way.
     
  13. MachIVshooter

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    I also don't get paid if I'm not working, genius.

    Think those of us who are self employed just get to do what we want, when we want? Think again. Most of us put in at least 60-70 hours/week on average, and we don't get overtime. Sometimes we don't make anything.

    BlkLtng02-

    I'm not bemoaning those who weren't at the rallies but were doing other productive pro-RKBA things. I'm annoyed with those who decided that watching the boob tube, going shopping, screwing around here on THR, etc was more important.
     
  14. beatledog7

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    Lighten up MachIV and X-JaV, please. Your guns are more important than your children?

    I was working today as well, as I do every Saturday. I'm glad you and many others in a whole bunch of states are able to take the time and go march on Saturdays, but I'm under contract to be somewhere else.

    Do you have some hidden insight into another person's pro-2A activities? I thought not. Please don't throw stones at your teammates.
     
  15. MachIVshooter

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    Who ever said that?

    The guns are important because of the children; to protect them, to ensure their future right to protect themselves and their children, to defend this nation against itself.

    I don't think spending the day with mommy so I could do this negatively impacts them.

    As for work; I worked for other people for 14 years before starting my own company; NEVER was there a time I couldn't get a Saturday off with a month's notice, and I was lead tech.

    I was more understanding of those who couldn't get a Tuesday or Wednesday off when we only found out about the hearings the Friday before, but this is a different story.
     
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    This thread is a prime example of a disturbing trend I see here and on other gun forums lately......the division and alienation of fellow gun enthusiasts. Instead of trashing our fellow gun owners for what they aren't doing, we should applaud them for what they are doing and encourage them to do more. Folks need to leave the "my dog is bigger than your dog" and "I love guns more than you do" attitude at the door. MachIVshooter, while it is obvious you were disappointed in the showing today, it does no good to come here and take your frustration out on others that hold the same things dear that you do. We need to stick together, not fight amongst ourselves.
     
  17. MachIVshooter

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    Buck-

    I'm not trying to divide. I'm trying to get people to take some responsibility, to do their civic duty and stand up for their rights, your rights, my rights, ALL of our rights.

    I tried imploring people; that didn't work. So we're gonna give shaming a go.

    If you don't vote, you don't get to complain about election outcomes. If you don't stand up for your right, you don't get to complain about it's being infringed upon. Pretty simple.

    In short, don't expect others to fight your battles for you. This is our fight, all of us. If you have a problem with gun control, you have a duty to fight it in every way you can.

    If you have been active in this fight, then this thread wasn't about you.
     
  18. jerkface11

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    You took a Saturday off for personal reasons. I had to work. Honestly you can be disappointed all day long if you want. I'll still be able to sleep tonight.
     
  19. Screamin'Eagle

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    Buck,

    Mach is holding fellow rkba and gun right proponents accountable and stating he was disappointed with the turnout. Nothing wrong with that. It wasn't a personal attack but more a call to action to highlight the fact we can't sit back and assume everyone is doing the work.

    Edit: looks like mach replied faster than I.
     
  20. Trent

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    There were rallies today???

    I didn't hear of anything in IL.

    Of course, we've got 12,000+ gun owners descending on Springfield, IL in a week and a half for the iGOLD lobbying day. That'll create a bit of a stir.
     
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    Post #8.

    Again, Mach, you have no clue what any of the rest us are doing WRT fighting for 2A. Throwing punches at each other is not going to help.
     
  22. MachIVshooter

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    Look, guys, I'm not grandstanding here. I could abstain from this and be just fine with the impending laws, because they all grandfather what we have. I've got more than 200 standard capacity magazines, tens of thousands of rounds, a half dozen ARs and times 3 other autoloading rifles.

    This is about the future of RKBA and the future of our nation. If I were inclined to be selfish and take a "sun is shining in my backyard" attitude, I could, and really not be worse off. I'm not the one scrambling for P-mags and AR lowers. I'm doing what I do so you can get them later, so my daughter's children's grandchildren can have effective self defense tools decades from now.

    This is far larger than me, my family or even guns. To quote one of the signs I carry:

    "It's About Liberty, Stupid!"
     
  23. jerkface11

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    Maybe you should look up the definition of grandstanding.
     
  24. X-JaVeN-X

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    You can't have one without the other. When my boy does something good...I praise him for it. However, when he does something wrong am I not suppose to get on his case about it? I'm sure everyone here appreciates what others in the gun community are doing. However, I wasn't raised to need the recognition of others to do the right thing. You just do it. When you screw up...you own it.

    “In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing. The worst thing you can do is nothing." - Theodore Roosevelt
     
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    This thread =/= thehighroad
     
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