Vile! Does he deserve to die painlessly?

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Lawyer: Death row inmate likely won't pursue federal appeals

By JOHN McCARTHY
Associated Press Writer

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- A death row inmate who said at trial that he enjoyed killing his victims likely won't pursue appeals that could postpone his Aug. 8 execution, his lawyer said Wednesday.

If Darrell Ferguson continues to refuse his appeals, he would be the sixth inmate to do so since Ohio resumed executions in 1999, state prisons spokeswoman Andrea Dean said.

The Ohio Supreme Court on Wednesday refused to reconsider its affirmation of Ferguson's conviction and sentence in the stabbing and beating deaths of Thomas King and Arlie and Mae Fugate of Dayton in 2001. The court, without comment, also moved the execution from July 26 to Aug. 8.

King, 61, was killed on Dec. 26, 2001. Arlie Fugate, 68, who was battling cancer, and his wife, Mae, 69, were killed the next day. Prosecutors said Ferguson stabbed the victims and stomped them with steel-toed boots.

Ferguson, 28, has decided not to pursue appeals available in federal courts, said Gary Crim, his lawyer.

"He's not appealing anything at this point," Crim said.

A message seeking comment was left for Dennis Adkins, another lawyer who has worked on the case, although Crim said Adkins currently is not involved. No lawyers from the office of the Ohio Public Defender are representing Ferguson, spokeswoman Amy Borror said.

Ferguson would have one year from the court's April 12 ruling to begin federal appeals, Borror said.

At his sentencing in 2003, Ferguson stunned the victims' families by boasting about the slayings.

"I took the satisfaction ... of killing your loved ones with pleasure. And I enjoyed it," Ferguson said. "If I was free to go back in society, I'd pick up where I left off."

In its April ruling, the Supreme Court rejected claims from Ferguson's attorneys that Ferguson did not get a fair competency evaluation because it was performed by a psychologist, not a psychiatrist, and did not include test results that could have helped the court assess his mental state.

"Ferguson stated in graphic terms that he took great satisfaction in killing his victims, felt no sorrow for his victims or their surviving family members," Justice Alice Robie Resnick wrote for the court. "Thus, by his own words, Ferguson is a remorseless, sadistic and incorrigible killer."

Four others who have given up federal appeals have been put to death in the past seven years: Wilford Berry, who was the first prisoner Ohio executed in 36 years, in 1999; Stephen Vrabel and Scott Mink, both in 2004; and Herman Ashworth in 2005. Rocky Barton, 49, of Warren County, is scheduled to be executed on July 12.

The spate of inmates giving up their appeals is troubling, but little can be done to intervene, said Alice Gerdeman, chairwoman of Ohioans to Stop Executions, a non-profit group.

"When somebody refuses their rightful appeals it disturbs me, because a human life is being taken," Gerdeman said. "He (Ferguson) probably has done the deed. Just from the little correspondence we've had with him, he seems very mentally ill or mentally disturbed in some way."

Gerdeman said her group would write to Gov. Bob Taft and ask him to grant Ferguson clemency. Of the 22 death penalty cases to come up for clemency, Taft has granted it just once.

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OK, so the guy is on Death Row. But let me re-iterate this quote, this is what is vile:
Gerdeman said her group would write to Gov. Bob Taft and ask him to grant Ferguson clemency.

CLEMENCY??!!?? This guy said:
"I took the satisfaction ... of killing your loved ones with pleasure. And I enjoyed it," Ferguson said. "If I was free to go back in society, I'd pick up where I left off."

Constitution says no cruel and inhuman punishment. OK. But to offer CLEMENCY? You got to be kidding. How are those touchy-feely Liberals sleeping at night?
 
Deserves got nothing to do with this.
Alice Gerdeman is being true to her beliefs. The fact is that life in maximum security is no fun. Very stressful and regimented. Medical tests show the effects of stress too. For some this is worse than death.
That clemency is no clemency at all. Clemency doesn't mean release, in this case probably a stay of execution.
For Gerdeman and her group, this has nothing to do with Ferguson individually. It is the principle. Just like for us we back the right to private firearm ownership even though people will commit crimes with them. There is a larger principle.
I don't say that you should agree with her beliefs, but that appears to be her motives.
 
The following is just my humble opinoin. Worth exactly what you pay for it.:)

In answer to question posed "yes" he should be executed with as little pain as possible. Not for his sake but rather because I would not want to torture any animal that needs to be put down. It is bad for the person who does create pain for the sake of creating pain. It is bad for the society remember YOU helped pay for the torture ( taxes).

NukemJim
 
"And when you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you".

F. Nietzsche



Biker
 
Define cruel and unusual punishment.

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Perhaps one of the faults of a society being overeducated is that it always splitting hairs and arguing about gnats.
 
Murderers should be executed in the same manner in which they dispatched their victims.
In theory that would be good. But what of the effect on the executioner? Would that really be a person you want walking around in public? Because the only people idea for that job are serial killers and sociopaths.
This is different from a self defence shooting or one where an officer must shoot a criminal. That is in the heat of the moment with immediate consequences for not shooting/killing. Torturing/killing in cold blood when there is no direct connection (being related isn't nearly as close a connectin) will have some mental effect on the executioner. None of it good.
 
I'd like to know why methods of execution like firing squad and hanging were not considered "cruel and inhuman" for most of the history of our country, but now offend our oh-so-dainty sensibilities. I believe convicted killers should not be allowed to slip painlessly out of this life via lethal injection; they should die quickly by violent means. I don't believe in torture, but I think there is a deterrent factor in the hangman's noose or the firing squad that is lacking in lethal injection. Lethal injection has always seemed to me like a perversion of medical science.
 
Given a choice, I'd take the firing squad any day. Six .308s to the heart ain't gonna hurt for long, guarandamnteed. Beats the hell out of getting a variety of needles poked in you and waiting.

Biker
 
I always wondered why we don't try using pure nitrogen with 0% oxygen. From what I understand, you pass out immediately and die within a few minutes. You could even sedate them first. I guess people have something against gassing.

But yes, cruel and unusual punishment has been bastardized these days. The Spanish Inquisition was cruel and unusual. Hanging or lethal injection is not.
 
Lethal injection isn't always painfree or quick actually. But yes I think he absolutely should deserve to die as painlessly as possibly. When is the benefit of sinking to their level with revenge cruelty? Take the high road ;)
 
MechAg94,

When I was in the Air Force we had to go throught the altitude chamber about every two-three years. They would "take" you up above 18,000 feet and with an oxygen mask this was not a problem. During the training they would take you to 18,000, you would buddy up with someone and take off your oxygen mask. With the mask off you would begin writing. Your buddy would watch you and at some point place the mask back on your face. When you recovered you would look at the wonderful writing you had done, tha tis if you could decypher it. All of this was done so you could experience hypoxia(sp). Without oxygen you would eventually die. From what I saw it would be a very painless way to execute someone. In fact, many of the altitude chamber instructors advocated this method of execution. Even at that I am certain that the nambe pansies, thank you Boston Legal, would still call it cruel & unusual.
 
Yes the definition of "cruel and unusual" has changed with time - and society. Sometimes it really isn't about the person being executed. The execution is about carrying out justice, not revenge. Only the family has rights to revenge - look back at any tribal code.

If you want to look at the history of our country to justify other means of execution (I'm not necessarily against hanging or firing squad), then remember abusing women and children (not sexually) was considered normal and good discipline.

Six .308 Wins in the heart will indeed be a quick death. I'm sure there would be executions where the shooters miss anything immediately vital - and not on purpose. Shooting a person, no matter how reprehensible their past, is different from shooting paper.
 
If I had a mad dog I would put it down. Why not so with a mad human?

I have had pets before, dogs, cats, etc. that were old sick and/or cancer ridden so I chose to end their suffering with a potassium chloride injection. The needle works. Potassium stops the heart from beating and death follows quickly.

The death penalty by nature is not cruel or inhumane; it is in fact permanent incarceration that is cruel and inhumane.
 
evan price said:
OK, so the guy is on Death Row. But let me re-iterate this quote, this is what is vile:

Gerdeman said her group would write to Gov. Bob Taft and ask him to grant Ferguson clemency.
I hear you, but personally I find THIS statement to be infinitely more vile:

"When somebody refuses their rightful appeals it disturbs me, because a human life is being taken," Gerdeman said.
I wonder if this ... person ... understands the difference between "right" and "duty." The "right" to appeal is exactly that ... a right. It is not a duty. Doesn't this moron care anything about the antiquated notion of people accepting responsibility for their actions? Does she truly WANT the court system clogged even more than it is already with every convicted criminal filing the most ridiculous, frivolous and hopeless appeals, just because they have a right to appeal?

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You don't make an execution be painless because the condemned deserves a painless death. You do so because you deserve for his death to be painless. You deserve to be different from him.
 
You don't make an execution be painless because the condemned deserves a painless death. You do so because you deserve for his death to be painless. You deserve to be different from him.

Hear, Hear, best post in thread. Sir you get it!!

Agree
 
Midnight,

As I understand it, Charles Manson was saved when the SCOTUS ruled the death penalty unconstitutional, and therefore his sentence was changed to Life.
 
It seems to me that many pathological killers don't care if they live or die, but they do want to be famous. IMO if he has admitted to the crime and has no remorse, put him down (any way will do, painlessly if you wish) and never speak his name again.
 
If you are concerned about the injection....

being painful, just smack them in the back of the head with a baseball bat. I KNOW they won't feel anything then.................chris3
 
I'm of the camp that, once you decide that someone should be killed, regardless of the reasons behind it, the killing should be conducted as efficiently as possible.

In context of criminal executions...take them out to a ditch, shoot them in the head, and leave the bodies to the dogs.
 
You don't make an execution be painless because the condemned deserves a painless death. You do so because you deserve for his death to be painless. You deserve to be different from him.

Precisely. A society is known by how it treats those within its power: the young, the old, its animals . . . and its prisoners. As much as seeing prisoners receive the same as they have given, that does nothing but turn us into that which we abhore. They have forfeited by their actions their right to freedom, access to privileges or luxuries, or even their right to life, but that does not mean we lower ourselves as a society.
 
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