Violent crime up for 1st time in 5 years - NRA blamed (duplicate threads merged)

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Just saw this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060612/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/fbi_violent_crime

WASHINGTON - Murders, robberies and aggravated assaults in the United States increased last year, spurring an overall rise in violent crime for the first time since 2001, according to FBI data.

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Murders rose 4.8 percent, meaning there were more than 16,900 victims in 2005. That would be the most since 1998 and the largest percentage increase in 15 years.

Murders jumped from 272 to 334 in Houston, a 23 percent spike; from 330 to 377 in Philadelphia, a 14 percent rise; and from 131 to 144 in Las Vegas, a 10 percent increase.

Despite the national numbers, Detroit, Los Angeles and New York were among several large cities that saw the number of murders drop.

The overall increase in violent crime was modest, 2.5 percent, which equates to more than 1.4 million crimes. Nevertheless, that was the largest percentage increase since 1991.

The FBI data, compiled from reports by more than 12,000 law enforcement agencies, does not contain overall crime numbers in any category nor does it offer any explanation for the changes. The FBI's final annual crime report comes out in the fall.

Criminal justice experts said the statistics reflect the nation's complacency in fighting crime, a product of dramatic declines in the 1990s and the abandonment of effective programs that emphasized prevention, putting more police officers on the street and controlling the spread of guns.

"We see that budgets for policing are being slashed and the federal government has gotten out of that business," said James Alan Fox, a criminal justice professor at Northeastern University in Boston. "Funding for prevention at the federal level and many localities are down and the (National Rifle Association) has renewed strength."

Still, Fox said, "We're still far better off than we were during the double-digit crime inflation we saw in the 1970s."

Robberies were up 4.5 percent and aggravated assaults 1.9 percent, according to preliminary data. Alone among violent crime categories, the number of rapes fell 1.9 percent.

Violent crimes peaked at 1.9 million in 1992 and fell steadily through the end of that decade. The number has been relatively stable for the past six years.

Crime last year increased in all regions, although the 5.7 percent rise in the Midwest was at least three times any other region's. These states make up the Midwest: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota and Wisconsin.

Fox cautioned against reading too much into year-to-year changes in individual cities, saying some differences result from random variation and marked swings the previous year. Also, some large statistical increases result from some small numerical changes.

In Hartford, Conn. for example, murders jumped more than 50 percent, from 16 to 25.

I really don't like how this criminologist blames the NRA and guns in general for the rise in violent crime.

I do think it is funny that Illinois is one of the states that is listed as being "three times worse than the other regions." As I understand it, Illinois' gun laws are pretty strict.

The bad news (in a way) is that New York's violent crime is down. Bloomberg will be sure to take credit for that, no doubt declaring that it is due to his har stance on guns.

Anyone want to take a guess on why violent crime went up?

Any other comments?
 
"Crime is up! It must be the NRA!!"
"What'd they do?"
"I DUNNO!"
Really, what do they think the NRA did to cause crime to go up???
 
Professor equates crime with the NRA ?

How can this "learned" fellow compare a crime increase
with renewed NRA strength ? What has an increase in the
NRA's membership have to do with crime ?
http://www.yahoo.com/s/135783/*http.../20060612/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/fbi_violent_crime

"We see that budgets for policing are being slashed and the federal government has gotten out of that business," said James Alan Fox, a criminal justice professor at Northeastern University in Boston. "Funding for prevention at the federal level and many localities are down and the (National Rifle Association) has renewed strength."
 
The question that come to my mind is; Do they count a person that is killed by an intended victim in self-defense or by a cop in a shoot out as murder ?
 
Crime in Houston was on the downturn until our chocolate city guests showed up.

Homicides shot up +25% after Nagin's constituents started squatting here. And I'll bet not a one was a NRA member. Liberals of all types are the real criminal enablers. The Nagin voters, the race pimps, the Tookie Williams quadruple murder Peace Prizers, the Michael Dukakises of the world are the real root source.
 
Guilt by association

The professor is using an old trick.

List a single provable fact, then include several opinions in the same sentence or paragraph and hope that most readers will not read the passage too analytically.

He could have just as easily said that murders are up and ...

"the number of children born to unwed mothers has risen ..."
"membership in the Democrat party has increased ..."
"more walleye have been caught in lake Kabetegoma..."

His objective, and a not too subtle one it is either, is to link the NRA with violent crime in some ignorant people's minds. The sad part is it will probably work for most media types that couldn't have passed a statistics, logic or an ethics class if their life depended on it.
 
I equate professors with serial murderers.

That looney tunes professor in California wanted to give Tookie Williams a nobel peace prize for his 4 gruesome murders. Therefore all professors must be enablers of serial killers.
 
Violent crime up for 1st time in 5 years By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer
. . . . .Criminal justice experts said the statistics reflect the nation's complacency in fighting crime, a product of dramatic declines in the 1990s and the abandonment of effective programs that emphasized prevention, putting more police officers on the street and controlling the spread of guns.

"We see that budgets for policing are being slashed and the federal government has gotten out of that business," said James Alan Fox, a criminal justice professor at Northeastern University in Boston. "Funding for prevention at the federal level and many localities are down and the (National Rifle Association) has renewed strength." . . . . . .
Maryland spent a couple of million dollars on that "ballistic fingerprint database" which did no good at all; that money would have funded at least twelve full-time highway patrol officers (full wages, training, benefits, etc). In that case, gun control diverted funds away from putting cops on the streets.

And sales and numbers of guns in private hands spread during all the years of the decline in crime rates in the 1990s. If there has been a change in the last year, it should not be blamed on the spread of guns.
 
how would the figures look if illegal aliens,both perps and victims are subtracted?
 
There was also this from Drudge that actually originated at Breitbart:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/12/D8I6MG9G1.html

In addition to information about the uptick in crime stats in some areas it contained this atatment:

"We see that budgets for policing are being slashed and the federal government has gotten out of that business," said James Alan Fox, a criminal justice professor at Northeastern University in Boston. "Funding for prevention at the federal level and many localities are down and the (National Rifle Association) has renewed strength."

So now the NRA is singled out for blame in increased crime. Absolutley amazing!

S-
 
He could have just as easily said that murders are up and ...

"the number of children born to unwed mothers has risen ..."
"membership in the Democrat party has increased ..."
"more walleye have been caught in lake Kabetegoma..."

Yeah, but he'd be more accurate if he said that--at least in his second assumed cause...after all, criminals are usually Democrats!
 
I'm sure the increase is due to the 5000 people killed by drug dealer bayonet charges since the expiration of the AWB... :rolleyes:
 
I want to know how many of those murderers/rapists/whatevers are even NRA members. How can it be the NRA's fault if the people aren't even members of it?
 
The article says the "the NRA has renewed strength", but doesn't say how that relates to the rise in crime. It is like saying that "10 people comitted suicide yesterday, the same day that meatloaf was served in the cafeteria." It might be a coinicedence, but there is not evidence of a correlation.

The "criminologist" in this article makes 2 assumptions as to the cause of the rise in violence. The first is that the lack of funding for LE angencies has reduced the level of enforcment/prevention. The second is that the NRA has something to do with the proliferation of weapons used in crimes.

The first assumption has a bit of reasoning behind it, obviously an under-funded police force is less effective than a well-funded one. The second assumption is purely political BS. The use of a gun in a crime goes against every tennent of responsible gun ownership that the NRA teaches.

I won't even begin to mention the unproven correlation between legal civilan gun ownership and the level of violent crime. To think that so-called "educated" people can peddle this hogwash :barf:
 
My opinion? I think the increase in violent crimes nationwide has a lot to do with the growing problem of methamphetamines nationwide. Those people are CRAZY. Unfortunately, I only think it is going to get worse before it gets better.

All the more reason for the rest of us law-abiding folk to be able to carry to protect ourselves.
 
I have a theory.


New Orleans was a hell hole before Katrina (very high crime rate) ... Katrina caused the mass evacuation of the citizens of New Orleans (a much higher percentage of them are criminals than the rest of the country). NOLA also has a very corrupt/inept police department so its crime rate was likely grossly under-reported.

New Orleans crime problem just got spread around the rest of the country (where its getting honestly reported).


I believe the increase in home invasions here in Colorado Springs was the fault of a couple of NOLA "refugees".
 
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