Virginia Beach Police and a Non Gun Buy Back

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Eric F

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Virginia Beach Police are asking you to help them get guns off the streets.

On Saturday, from 8 a.m. - Noon, police officers are allowing people to turn in their unwanted weapons and ammo at the 4th Police Precinct on Kempsville Road.

Police are also accepting illegal fireworks.

If you can't make it Saturday, police say you can always turn your guns in at any of the city's four precincts.
http://www.wtkr.com/Global/story.asp?S=8534875\

I saw this on the news last night. The reporter seemed very pro gun on this issue and asked a question
other cities offer gift cards for guns why doesn't Virginia Beach?
the police officer replied
Why should we people are more than willing to turn them in for free.
on the side of this story a local man was ordered to leave the collection point for offering cash at his pickup truck for guns. They showed all the guns collected on display most were new condition if not new in box. they collected 385 firearms most apeared to be hunting quality rifles and shotguns the pistols that got flashed by the screen were all revolvers.

Why would you turn in your gun for free? It is plain that none of these guns were "on the street" so the total mission was a failure in my eyes. Excuse me while I go puke!:barf:
 
"Hey, Carrie, where is that Revolver i bought for homedefense?"
"I heard that they are more dangerous to their owners than to criminals, so i turned it in to the police for destruction"
"Ah, thats good to hear, i figured someone had stolen it, but then the reason why i cant grab the gun out of the nightstand to fight of the drugcrazed hoodlum breaking through our bedroom window right now is a good one, not a bad one. Can you please call 911 so that the cops can come and draw chalk outlines around our bodies in thirtyfive minutes?"
 
Why would they stop someone from making FTF purchases from the line ?

I mean I understand WHY but can they legally do that ?
 
Spent a lot of time in VB back in my service days. The Veneral Bisease POleece were obnoxious, heavy-handed pissants back then, and it sounds like they haven't changed a dang bit.

Typical behavior from them--they can't do anything about the criminals arond there, so they pander to them and then "get tough" with the decent folks.

Seems to be an ever increasingly common theme these days . . .

Jeff
 
Well luckily you don't need gun down there for protection. The police in the whole Norfolk/ VA Beach region have the crime situation well in hand. I don't even think they have the annual riot at the end of the summer season any more.
 
Ahh,, looking forward to my vacation down VA Beach in August. I have a nice resort studio booked, and I am going to be able to carry on my Florida Permit.

Too funny about the guy offering cash. I wonder if he is a Highroader?
 
VA Beach isnt really 'tough'. They're just lazy and apathetic like a customer service desk at Wal-mart. The only thing they're 'tough' on is issuing massive amounts of traffic tickets on tourists and locals alike.

I guess alot of people inherit firearms and just keep them for no reason because they don't figure they can get rid of them without legal problems. They probably have no idea how much they were worth or that they could have just pawned them.

there also isnt really any problem with violent crime in VA Beach. The usual stuff are car thieves, drunk and disorderly in public, and druggies that follow the tourists around. All the big stuff is in Norfolk (which isnt too bad) and Richmond.
 
Treo wrote:
Why would they stop someone from making FTF purchases from the line ?

I mean I understand WHY but can they legally do that ?

No. But they won't be dissuaded from issuing dictates merely because some inconvenient law does not allow them to do so. You must obey them. Why? Because you are bound in morality and justice to obey them? No. You must obey them because if you don't, they will do violence to you because they can. It's not about upholding justice, but about upholding their egos. It's very simple.

Wherever there is the idea that one's actions are always justified so long as the person is "doing his job," or "following orders," injustice and unnecessary violence follow in its wake.

The most insidious thing about such a mindset is that the person who is under its influence is almost entirely unaware of it, as any convert to Christianity can tell you. Pride and arrogance are universally detestable traits, but no one who is very prideful or arrogant will admit that he is either prideful or arrogant.

There are very few policemen out there who think they only have a right to stop people from performing intrinsically unjust aggressive or fraudulent acts against other people. They think they have the right to stop people for acts that are "wrong" only because they are prohibited.

This is known as law-worship. To paraphrase an acquaintance of mine, "They believe that people exist to serve a law, not that a law exists to serve the people."

There is a difference between a law that actually serves people, and a law that was passed with the intent to serve people. An example of the former, a law that actually serves people, is a law that says, "You cannot murder, rape, or rob other people." An example of the latter, a law that is intended to serve the people, but does not, is one such as prohibition of alcohol. (Or guns, or drugs.) The effects of such a law are counterproductive to actually attaining a well-intended end. The law, then, is destructive of the end which it seeks to accomplish. But such a law still serves, as Jefferson said, the favorite purposes of enlarging the government, and giving more power to those who already hold power. (Read: "Not you, prole.")

When police officers are voluntarily-funded, and when they do nothing but protect the lives, liberty and property of individual people from real, immediate acts of aggression, they will be deserving of respect.

Today, however, over 70% of the acts they perform involve bullying non-violent, non-dangerous people. They do, of course, perform these actions while fully believing that they are helping the individuals in society. They have to believe it. No one can knowingly choose to do evil for evil's sake.

-Sans Authoritas
 
Use your heads. Guns on the streets are very dangerous. They obviously are a leading cause of accidents in many parts of this country. Anyone who spends even a minisecond thinking about it knows the problem.

Say you are driving along a Virginia Beach street one evening, humming your favorite aria from El Cretino or La Idiota or some other Italian opera. Then bang! You pile into a mound of guns on the streets, your head hits the windshield, you're too dazed to know what's happening, your car goes out of control, it gathers more speed as it carooms along the vehicles parked along the street, launches into the air, hits a nuclear reactor, and there goes the entire country.

If we continue to allow people to toss their unwanted guns into the streets the litter becomes overwhelming. I propose ticketing anyone who is caught tossing a gun into the streets. This should be made a municipal ordinance in Virginia Beach. Its enactment will distract from the acquisition of the municipal ordnance but the results will be worthwhile.
 
If we continue to allow people to toss their unwanted guns into the streets the litter becomes overwhelming.
Then I guess ol' Wheeler44 will have to adopt a highway.
 
Robert Hairless, I second your proposed regulations. We need to think of the children... now, more than ever.

-Sans Authoritas
 
next time I see a gun on the street I will tell it to go to virginia beach and turn itself in
 
I still don't understand why they got ANY guns at all. We Va Beach residents like to shoot. The ranges there are PACKED every weekend. Not sure why ANYONE turned in a single gun. Baffling, and completely British of them.
Steve
 
There are very few policemen out there who think they only have a right to stop people from performing intrinsically unjust aggressive or fraudulent acts against other people. They think they have the right to stop people for acts that are "wrong" only because they are prohibited.

Utter bull###t
 
Really?

Taurus, do you believe you have a right to stop a peaceful-looking person who is carrying a loaded AR-15 in downtown Ann Arbor?

-Sans Authoritas
 
They showed all the guns collected on display most were new condition if not new in box. they collected 385 firearms most apeared to be hunting quality rifles and shotguns the pistols that got flashed by the screen were all revolvers.

Hummm ?? A person with a suspicious mind might think they salted the mine so to speak ! :scrutiny:
 
This is known as law-worship. To paraphrase an acquaintance of mine, "They believe that people exist to serve a law, not that a law exists to serve the people."

I recall that Jesus said something like that too.
 
Why would they stop someone from making FTF purchases from the line ?

I mean I understand WHY but can they legally do that ?

I would appreciate it if somebody with the knowledge would please answer this.

If my town every has a buy-back I plan on crashing it. In fact, I find buy-backs beneficial. The city is paying for the advertising and I am reaping all of the benefit to purchase decent firearms at a low cost.

This particular buy-back took place at the precinct, which is public property. Unless there is a law that forbids something you can do it. I do not think the ambiguous loitering law would apply. What do you think?
 
I was calling bull#### on the idea that YOU can make any claims as to what the majority of police think, do, or feel. You're just one man, misguided as you are. If you're gonna spout nonsense disguised as fact, at least make it somewhat believable and don't make obviously fabricated claims about what the entire police organization as a whole thinks.
 
I still don't understand why they got ANY guns at all. We Va Beach residents like to shoot. The ranges there are PACKED every weekend. Not sure why ANYONE turned in a single gun. Baffling, and completely British of them.
Steve

what still bothers me more than that is that they were given in for free... I'll say it again: alot of them must have hated guns, but had their dead dad's or grandad's nice guns laying around and didnt want the kids or the dog to shoot themselves, so they just threw them out. But still...no money at all? Maybe they werent stupid, but just figured that everyone liked Glocks so that their guns were worthless since they werent plastic and cool-looking? I don't know. I would have standed out there too collecting anything i could before getting kicked out.
 
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