Vortex Warranty

[eastbank]

not only will they fix-repair fatty swans scope, they will still do it after 50 years have passed even if his grandson falls off the same truck.

 

[IndianaBoy]

I do buy it.

I have a hard time believing that guys who spend the kind of time and money that it takes to be competitive in PRS, would choose an optic solely because it saved them a couple grand. That poll was specifically geared toward the top 100 finishers of the entire PRS series. The guys who win matches.....

What kind of money do you think sponsorship entails? There might be 5 people in the realm of shooting sports who actually get paid for what they do.



Leupold, Nightforce, etc all make great optics. Nightforce doesn't have a budget lineup for us to compare to the budget offerings from Vortex. Leupold does and I would say that the Leupold MarkAR line of optics is probably a superior choice to offerings like the Vortex Strike Eagle.

It's really all just hearsay and personal experience unless we have some real data about the number of optics sold vs. those that go back for warranty.

I have an expensive scope riding in a USPS box right now on the way back to be repaired by the factory.


My only experience with Vortex Warranty was on a $30 accessory, and they sent me a prepaid shipping label to return the broken throw lever along with the new throw lever (that I smashed off the scope dropping the rifle into a dump barrel) that they sent me, no questions asked.

Plenty of great options out there, it is a great time to be shopping for high quality optics.

 

[cdb1]

I have a hard time believing that guys who spend the kind oftime and money that it takes to be competitive in PRS, would choose an optic solely because it saved them a couple grand. That poll was specifically geared toward the top 100 finishersof the entire PRS series. The guys who win matches.....

I have a hard time believing you aren’t getting the gist of my posts. I’ve made it very clear I believe Vortex top of the line scopes, Razor, are TOP OF THE LINE. Therefore if I were a competitive shooter and Vortex offered me money to use their top of the line scope I’d probably do it, especially if no one else is offering money. And other guys use them because of their excellent quality.

 

[IndianaBoy]

I get that, but in your original post you were referencing Vortex and Nightforce. Nightforce, to my knowledge, does not sell any scopes that would be called a 'budget' scope. So if you are excluding the premier offerings from Vortex in a discussion about warranty returns, how do you compare them to Nightforce, where MSRP on most of their offerings is $2k+?


So if your premise is that the sub $400 offerings from Vortex are going to go back for warranty work more often than the $2k+ offerings from Nightforce, I would say... I certainly hope so, for all the people using Nightforce. You are ignoring that products from Vortex that are actually comparable to Nightforce, which are those that have the greatest amount of engineering and quality control behind them, and then discrediting Vortex for product lines which Nightforce has no competitors for.

Leupold is a valid comparison, as they certainly offer products in every price range.

 

[IndianaBoy]

I would also be very surprised if anyone is getting paid money as part of their sponsorship with an optics company. They probably get deals on optics, perhaps at cost, and some sponsored shooters may get entry fees paid to a certain number of matches to represent the brand.


If you can find me someone who is getting paid cash to rep gear at shooting matches (Who isn't named Miculek), I will eat some crow. That just doesn't happen to my knowledge.

 

[cdb1]

I didn’t mean money per se but free optics and possibly expenses.

I’m not comparing NightForce product to lower end Vortex, I’m comparing the warranty. I could have said Leupold and probably should have, or even Burris. I own more Leupold than any other brand. When I sold scopes we offered numerous brands but sold more Leupold, Vortex and Nikon than other brands, by a pretty large margin. We had more Vortex scopes returned as defective than Nikon and Leupold put together. Of the major brands I believe Vortex has the highest failure rate of any scope in the same price range. The numbers proved that where I worked.

Any one person can have an excellent experience with Vortex. The sample size I had experience with was exponentially larger.

Another nice thing about Leupold which isn’t germaine to this thread is availability. If Vortex is out of a particular scope it can be six to nine months before it is available. If Leupold is out they can and do change their production schedule and have the scope available in a couple of weeks to a month at worst.

 

[Axis II]

Okay i got one for you guys. say a vortex or Nikon of say 6-18-40 runs around $200-300 but a leupold is $500. Why the $200 price jump? Maybe just the name and warranty?

Not trying to argue anyone's points here just asking because I'm debating saving up for a VX2 6-18-40 for a varmint rifle.

 

[cdb1]

Okay i got one for you guys. say a vortex or Nikon of say 6-18-40 runs around $200-300 but a leupold is $500. Why the $200 price jump? Maybe just the name and warranty?

Not trying to argue anyone's points here just asking because I'm debating saving up for a VX2 6-18-40 for a varmint rifle.

Not just name and warranty. The Leupold will be a much better scope. Even though I like VX-2’s I wouldn’t get one with 18x power. I’ve looked through a bunch of scopes with upper zoom range of 18x and higher. Something has to give when you sell 18x for even $500.00. Things like tunneling and super critical eyebox come into play. If it is noticeable in an optimum environment I imagine it would be worse in the field.

 

[Axis II]

Not just name and warranty. The Leupold will be a much better scope. Even though I like VX-2’s I wouldn’t get one with 18x power. I’ve looked through a bunch of scopes with upper zoom range of 18x and higher. Something has to give when you sell 18x for even $500.00. Things like tunneling and super critical eyebox come into play. If it is noticeable in an optimum environment I imagine it would be worse in the field.

My crossfire is a little finicky when cranked to 18x. I take it vx3 and higher would be a better option?

 

[cdb1]

My crossfire is a little finicky when cranked to 18x. I take it vx3 and higher would be a better option?

Yes, at least for me. Most of my scopes are in the $400.00 to $750.00 range including VX-3. VX-3 is about the least expensive scope I can see well through at power above 14x. Others may see better, I can’t.

 

[LoonWulf]

Ive had little issue with my Athlon 4-20 above 14x, but thats all i own right now with power ranges higher than 14/15. The Viper HS...lr....something or other, my buddy had at the range did fine, even with the horrible, super tall rings he had, but its only a 16x.
My Mark AR 6-18, was pretty decent, but yes it also had a fairly small eye box. The 6.5-20x50 Simmons Whitetail classic i had was great up to about 14-15, after that it sucked all the way around....but it held zero and cost 100 bucks so i cant complain too hard.

My head placement tends to be pretty consistent, ill have to go mess with my athlon to see how it dose if i wiggle my head......

 

[Skylerbone]

All day, every day, twice on hunting day I’d choose a scope with a reputation for ruggedness. I’ve seen 3 Tasco and 4 Bushnell scopes fail in my time, not very many to be sure, but somewhat telling. I know they were built to a price point, but the fact someone stamped their name and reputation on such merchandise speaks to their willingness to rank dependability below my acceptable level.

Warranties are nice. Unconditional warranties are really nice. Needing them sooner than is typical is not nice.