WA governor signs big gun control package, including 'assault weapons' ban: 'No one needs an AR15'

[Skribs]

My family and I have successfully fled from the tyranny in Washington state. The one thing in ten years I voted for that passed, the government basically said, "The vote doesn't matter, we're going to ignore it."

 

[DustyGmt]

Hopefully this isn't a "coming to a state near you" situation. I worry about my fickle state gov/legislature, we never had any restrictions of any kind before 2018 and all it took for our forked tongue governor to implement all sorts of egregious restrictions was a foiled shooting plot. Really kind of absurd, the kid just wrote about the killing fantasies in his "diary" and a concerned party contacted LE and stopped short of prosecuting the individual or would be shooter, but instead the rest of us law abiding citizens were the ones who were prosecuted, existing weapons and magazines were grandfathered but that's only one step away from banning outright. I wonder if there is a strategy where real "in your face" mass non compliance could work if employed strategically and effectively...

It annoys me to no end to see these restrictions passed called "gun safety measures". They aren't "safety measures" so much as they are 2A infringements against my rights. It worries me that all its going to take is one actual shooting incident before VT turns into MA or CT.

I feel for folks in Washington, it would be nice if SCOTUS had our backs and there was clear cut rulings against institution of these infringements.

 

[Skribs]

Hopefully this isn't a "coming to a state near you" situation. I worry about my fickle state gov/legislature, we never had any restrictions of any kind before 2018 and all it took for our forked tongue governor to implement all sorts of egregious restrictions was a foiled shooting plot. Really kind of absurd, the kid just wrote about the killing fantasies in his "diary" and a concerned party contacted LE and stopped short of prosecuting the individual or would be shooter, but instead the rest of us law abiding citizens were the ones who were prosecuted, existing weapons and magazines were grandfathered but that's only one step away from banning outright. I wonder if there is a strategy where real "in your face" mass non compliance could work if employed strategically and effectively...

It annoys me to no end to see these restrictions passed called "gun safety measures". They aren't "safety measures" so much as they are 2A infringements against my rights. It worries me that all its going to take is one actual shooting incident before VT turns into MA or CT.

I feel for folks in Washington, it would be nice if SCOTUS had our backs and there was clear cut rulings against institution of these infringements.

It's good to worry. 12 years ago, when I got into guns, WA was surprisingly one of the freest states, as far as gun rights were concerned. They fell, and they fell fast. If Washington can, other states can, too.

 

[Nodakdad]

Washington is too close to California, all their craziness spilled over

 

[Golfanaticshooter]

Paging Judge Benitez: can we get your decision on Miller v. Bonta?

At any rate, I watched the tragic comedy of the bill-signing circus, er, "ceremony," this morning. Never have I heard so many lies, distortions, disinformation, misinformation nor seen so many tears at an event that was not a funeral.
Wonder who paid for all the gun-control activists to fly up here? Bloomberg? Soros?
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Our tax dollars.

 

[Mark_Mark]

It's good to worry. 12 years ago, when I got into guns, WA was surprisingly one of the freest states, as far as gun rights were concerned. They fell, and they fell fast. If Washington can, other states can, too.

No, I disagree, washington has become very hard one sided and corrupt. There iS ZERO check and balance. And the people vote for these laws. Will Arkansas or Florida or Texas ever fall under commie laws… highly UNLIKELY

 

[Skribs]

No, I disagree, washington has become very hard one sided and corrupt. There iS ZERO check and balance. And the people vote for these laws. Will Arkansas or Florida or Texas ever fall under commie laws… highly UNLIKELY

I wonder what the founding fathers would think of the NFA...

 

[Mark_Mark]

I wonder what the founding fathers would think of the NFA...

The country will go into Civil War again. All great civilization eventually fail. Not if, just when.

 

[N555]

The state will continue to have AR15s and M16s.
Funny how that works.

 

[P5 Guy]

Is it better than freezing up North, meh.

I would rather sweat than shiver.

 

[Capybara]

A decade ago, this would have been inconceivable in Washington. This is what happens when the Cancer that are California politicians metastasizes in the surrounding states. Washington, Oregon, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, all are going down, all are
turning Purple, then Blue. Maybe now people who live in "free" states will understand that the Cancer that begins here will affect their rights and their state. Maybe now gun owners in all 50 states can come together a bit more to fight the gun grabbers. If you live in Alaska, Tennessee, Idaho, this Cancer has you in its sights and it is coming to disarm you.

Living here in Communist Central, I've long thought that the gun community of the entire country has been a victim of it's own hubris. "I live in America, I live in a state that respects my 2A rights, not like you poor suckers who live in California. Why don't you move?" You did live in a state that respected your gun rights, but now, what has happened here is going to take root in your state. So what are you going to do abut it? To make sure your state doesn't become the next Washington, California, NY, New Jersey, Mass, Hawaii? It's sea change time folks.

 

[Capybara]

No, I disagree, Washington has become very hard one sided and corrupt. There is ZERO check and balance. And the people vote for these laws. Will Arkansas or Florida or Texas ever fall under commie laws… highly UNLIKELY

All that it takes is a fundamental demographics change. Texas is already well on it's way. Older White Conservatives are dying off demographically, replaced by young Latinos who vote Left. You cannot fight demographics, that's one thing I've learned as a lifelong Californian who was born here and have lived my entire life here and lived through California being a relative paradise with relatively lax gun laws when I was in my 20s and 30s to anti-gun Communist workers paradise it has become. It all happened because of demographics. This state used to be pretty bi-partisan, of course you had Leftists hippies and crazy people but they were balanced out in the population and politics by true conservatives. This was the state that I grew up in.

Now, the majority of the people who live here are full on Champagne Communists, other than in the rural parts of the state. This same shift is happening all over the country, especially in Texas, which has become the landing pad for California expats. Sure, plenty of Conservative Californians have moved to Texas but more Commies have moved there from here. I have Commie Leftist family members who moved to Texas, bringing the Cancer with them. They despise Ted Cruz and Greg Abbott, they vote full on Commie every election. They are terrified of guns and hate them and want full on civilian disarmament. They think Texas should be identical to California. You cannot fight demographic Cancer.

 

[DustyGmt]

My state catches flak for being the whitest in the country, but is also the most densely liberal. Bunch of Bernie loving tree huggers in a state where there is no "gun violence" to speak of, but they still manage to find all kinds of reasons to call for strict gun control. If a woman is killed in a domestic violence case is killed with a bow and arrow, somebody will be on the podium crying out for a ban on AR15's.

As of right now, VT, NH and ME are relatively lax in terms of gun ownership, constitutional carry, etc... only fairly recently did VT impose some restrictions but with NY, MA, CT, NJ and RI just to the south of us, I have a feeling VT will be the "example setters" for NH and ME by imposing "common sense gun control" and the entire northeast will have NYC'esque restrictions.

It looks like we are cruising in a good direction, we get a few more Constitutional Carry states and it will make up about 2/3rds of the country, but it's hard to be optimistic, more states follow Washington's model and we are screwed....

 

[Capybara]

My state catches flak for being the whitest in the country, but is also the most densely liberal. Bunch of Bernie loving tree huggers in a state where there is no "gun violence" to speak of, but they still manage to find all kinds of reasons to call for strict gun control. If a woman is killed in a domestic violence case is killed with a bow and arrow, somebody will be on the podium crying out for a ban on AR15's.

As of right now, VT, NH and ME are relatively lax in terms of gun ownership, constitutional carry, etc... only fairly recently did VT impose some restrictions but with NY, MA, CT, NJ and RI just to the south of us, I have a feeling VT will be the "example setters" for NH and ME by imposing "common sense gun control" and the entire northeast will have NYC'esque restrictions.

It looks like we are cruising in a good direction, we get a few more Constitutional Carry states and it will make up about 2/3rds of the country, but it's hard to be optimistic, more states follow Washington's model and we are screwed....

I've visited your beautiful state and you are lucky to live in such a place. I too fear though that your state could easily go the way of Washington and California, there are a ton of Commies in your state and it has a relatively small population.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I've visited your beautiful state and you are lucky to live in such a place. I too fear though that your state could easily go the way of Washington and California, there are a ton of Commies in your state and it has a relatively small population.

small pockets of Commies… they rest of the state could care less if you carry a .50 BMG pistol

 

[AlexanderA]

This needs to come before the Supreme Court post haste. If, for one reason or another, Justice Thomas leaves the Court, all bets are off.

 

[JTHunter]

You can't buy a gun without showing you have had safety training in the last 5 years? Residents there who buy guns regularly have to get trained every 5 years? Guns aren't that complicated. Do they think Washingtonians are that stupid? Are they making you guys take a new driving test evey 5 years, too?

I don't know what the laws are in Florida but in IL-ANNOY they DO require drivers retest annually after they reach a certain age.
That is one of the few requirements in this cesspool of a state with which I agree.
Don't forget that Gov. "Jabba" signed a very similar ban back in January. It's known as "PICA" - the "Protect Illinois Communities Act", a law that will end up protecting nothing but the "fat cats" that pushed this piece of despicable legislation through. That is why so many lawsuits in multiple jurisdictions were filed within a week of the governor's signature.

 

[JTHunter]

Washington is too close to California, all their craziness spilled over

Take a closer look - it is the entire West Coast. As for Cali, well, you know what "floats to the top", and map-wise, WA is at the "top".

And Dusty (post 27), look at the states where this IS "coming to a state near you" (like IL-ANNOY) and you will find the reason(s). They are "true blue".

 

[JTHunter]

I would rather sweat than shiver.

You can (almost) always put on enough clothes to stay warm, but you can never take off enough to stay cool (and decent).
Besides, I like my wood-burning fireplace.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

You can (almost) always put on enough clothes to stay warm, but you can never take off enough to stay cool (and decent).
Besides, I like my wood-burning fireplace.

Well, at the height of Summer here, you can sit under a tree and be uncomfortable.
In the depth of Winter there, you sit under a tree and, ya know, die.

 

[Rubone]

Well, at the height of Summer here, you can sit under a tree and be uncomfortable.
In the depth of Winter there, you sit under a tree and, ya know, die.

Perhaps, but for me I would die in a beautiful place and not a place like FL!

As for WA, they are fixing to see a huge uptick in violence and drug crime. The law of unintended consequences will bite them hard. NM is trying the same crap.

 

[Walkalong]

Not really seeing where this is advancing the pro gun cause, and since it has gotten heated already.........we're done.

Oh, and we don't do My X is better than your X here at THR.