Walkin' In A Winter Wonderland

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Now that winter is here and the heavy coats have come out of the closet, it's a good time to think about modifying carry habits to fit the weather as well as changing the wardrobe. How do you quickly access your normal IWB carry piece when you have it all zipped/buttoned up inside a heavy parka and maybe another layer or two?

Answer is, you don't.

But it might just be a good time to slip a concealed hammer snub into that parka pocket, in case the Santa's little elf you run into turns out to be a goblin instead. Coat pocket revolver carry is a realistic and practical option and has been known to and practiced by olde pharts for a long time. But an occasional reminder never hurts.

As with any pocket carry without a pocket holster, you should never allow anything else in that pocket- no keys, no mitten, no chapstick, no spare ammo, no nothin'. And like any other tactic, it needs to be tested and practiced in live fire before it is ventured on the street. Goodwill sells cheap coats... or you can whipstitch a 'patch' pocket onto a work coat that mimics the size/shape of the coat's actual pocket. Gas from the cylinder gap might well do damage to the coat even if you don't shoot through the actual pocket, so a chore coat would be preferable to experiment with.

And keep in mind that it's a close range/contact tactic, the pocket equivalent of a 'speed rock' might be necessary to get rounds into COM of the target.

Shooting through a coat pocket was part of the POI at the Snubby Summit some years ago ( http://www.shooting-center.org/snubby.htm ), where it was demonstrated and participants had an opportunity to practice it live fire.

Take a look at the video linked below, in which pro trainer Dave Spaulding demonstrates against a timer 1) drawing from under a coat, 2) drawing from the coat pocket, and 3) shooting through the pocket.

hth,

lpl
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Go to http://ruger.com/resources/videos.html
Click on Ruger Tactical Tips
Then click on All Weather Carry
 
Agree

Good posting and timely too.

One more thing,where do you leave that coat when you go to anothers home or in a restaurant.

I will not leave a loaded gun unattended,so I make arrangements to pocket the pistol - or carry the coat at all times.
 
I break your rule on pocket carry. This is for a PPK I carry in my pants pocket. I also have a little leather notebook in my pocket that I got from a Friends of the NRA banquet to disguise the PPK from printing.

I've never had anyone ask me about a bulge in my pants. :scrutiny:
 
In winter, one of my favorites is my old school 3-inch chief with a barami hip grip and a Tyler-T adaptor. It is not a shoot-through-the-pocket piece, what with the exposed hammer with the firing pin on it, but the extra inch of barrel gives more oomph to the 158gr LSWCHP +P "FBI load that exceeds FBI penetration specs before they had them", and the hip grip allows for easy stuffing into the waistband under the sweater on the way back indoors. It's a lot more versatile than one might think a 5-round snub should be.

Good post.
 
My GF sews a nylon holster at an easy access spot for my 1911 in the inside of

one of my heavy coats. Dedicates the carry spot, and doesn't take up pocket

space. No print even possible, not even that much of a bulge. Sometimes I think

the gun keeps me warmer than the coat does.
 
shoulder rig....

Over the shirt and under a zip up front fleece..... parka over the top.

zip the fleece down to your sternum when the parka goes on....

Oversized tab (monkey fist) on the parka zip string, so it's easy to grab and yank down.

Yank down the zipper, tuck right mitten under left armpit, pull hand out of mitten and reach in your bussom to access toasty warm steel.

Happiness is a warm gun :)
 
I carry my man purse, a Maxpedition fatboy, with pride. It's so incredibly useful I don't know how I did without it. Particularly in the winter when other carry options are reduced by the need to wear fleece and heavy coats.

GLOVES have been my biggest problem. I ride my bike all over, and in the perpetually freezing temps of Alaska that means I must have good gloves. But gloves, coupled with cold weather, make drawing and firing a gun difficult. I've tried the more sheer tactical type gloves, and they're fine for shooting. I have a great pair of leather gauntlets I can shoot with. But none of these that I've found to date have been nearly warm enough.

My current solution, which is not perfect, is heavy gloves on a lanyard. If I need to access something in the bag in a hurry, I bite the glove tip and pull my hand out, then let the glove fall. The lanyard is looped around my neck and the glove doesn't get lost. This adds a step but I don't know a good alternative. Anyone know of subzero rated gloves that are tactile enough and thin enough to work well shooting a handgun?
 
You might look into a pair of finger flip mittens, where you can get a smaller glove under the mitten, or look into the high end thin gloves, I have a Pair of OS neoprene gloves, they do pretty good to about 0, but I dont' know how they would do with windchill.
 
I find it easier to conceal in the winter because no matter what method I choose I have more clothing to hide it.

That's a good news/bad news situation. The good is obvious: you can carry just about anything you want.

The bad news is also the whole point of LL's Ruger/Spaulding link: it takes an act of congress to get to your piece through all that stuff, at least compared to the old subcompact IWB under a polo or Tee.
 
Winter gear out here is a light jacket. :) Lift to access, no issue. Yes, get to wear my shoulder rig, too.
It's a winter wonderland until Jan 2, then it's just flipping cold. :(
 
OS neoprene gloves? I'll give those a try.

Expanding the trigger guard would be of some use. But in shooting tests, for myself, it seems to me mostly a matter of tactile sense. The gloves I use for riding are just too thick for any practical shooting, even with a bigger guard.
 
Pocket carry in Georgia without a holster is illegal, even if you have a permit.
 
One more way

I have on occassion carried a High Standard O/U Derringer [ .22 mag ] in the palm of my glove so I am armed and its going to be a very nasty surprise to anyone that insisted on stopping me.

The gun has not been made in a 'few' decades and I am lucky to have one and yes,I still do carry it as it is THE fastest 2 shots I can get to.

And no,its never a primary .
 
re: gloves

Hatch NS430L Winter specialist-duty are sold as all weather neoprene shooting gloves incl handgun usage. They have Thinsulate to deal with cold, and the neoprene deals with with the wet. Of course, there are limits to how much insulation can be incorporated into a dexterous glove. They're cut like driving gloves with a velco closure to keep the cuffs right.

I'm trialing a pair for bad-weather outdoor match usage...
 
Answer is, you don't.

Speak for yourself :D My presentation is not slowed. I layer cover garments in Winter. Inner garments are not buttoned, outer coat only a snap or two.

My main consideration for Winter carry is that bullets retain lots of residual energy when they reach the vitals. I have a preference for large exit wounds.
 
Not the best option, but I keep my LCP in an outside coat pocket, and continue to carry my regular CC pistol in its holster, inside/outside the waist, or a shoulder rig, depending on my attire and where I will be.
I have found that the cheep rag type gloves with rubber palms and fingers (not too sure about the exact name of the design, but pretty common around here) can be found with thinsulate insulation in them this time of year. I know Indiana winters arent quite as cold as Alaska, but I where these gloves outside all day ( I am in construction) and have found them to be too warm on all but the coldest days, and tactility of them is better than anything else I have found. I usually can find them at Rural King for a few dollars a pair.
 
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