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Wallmarts response to my email, not a canned answer

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by gym, Jan 10, 2013.

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  1. larryh1108

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    Why bash Walmart? I've read that they are the country's largest volume seller of firearms and firearm related product. Does that sound like they are anti anything?
     
  2. fallingbird

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    Maybe, in addition to writing our elected representatives, we should all write to Wal-Mart corporate asking them to carry more shooting sport related sku's.
     
  3. KTXdm9

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    I agree 100%. Let them know we will vote with our wallets if they cave to the gun grabbers.
     
  4. Bobson

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    I expect they would call that bluff.

    I'm willing to bet that an overall small percentage of that $120 Billion came from firearms and ammo sales combined. As much as I'd like to pretend I would boycott Walmart if they did side with the antis, that simply wouldn't be the case. I'm sure some people actually would vote with their wallets, but it wouldn't be enough to really hurt a hundred-billion-dollar-per-year company.
     
  5. VA27

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    I'm lucky there's a great LGS in my area and WallyWorld here only has 2 of those turntable racks with about a dozen long guns, NO handguns and a 6'X6' ammo display. If they gave up guns tomorrow you'd hardly notice.
     
  6. 22-rimfire

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    I am certainily not 18 or 21 and Walmart seldom requests my drivers license when I buy ammo. But I do know they use some discretion in applying their own rules on a store by store and customer by customer. It's the 18 > 21 year old group that have problems at walmart... rifle or pistol etc. I have noticed some associates ask for the license and don't even look at it. Everything is filmed there and they could loose their jobs if they don't apply Walmart's policies on various sale procedures. I have never purchased a firearm at Walmart, but I expect I would be walked to the door with my "box". Dicks and Sportsman Warehouse do the same thing. Not sure about Academy Sports as I seldom go there.

    Walmart could certainly give Biden and company information on the practicality of a back ground check with ammo sales if such a thing were purposed. They could even have a scanner there to scan your drivers license or ID.
     
  7. Pilot

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    Another organization that believes the 2nd Amendment is about hunting and "sportsmen".

    Remember their reason for existence. Profits, period. Like all other businesses, and legitimately so. They will "strike" a balance to offend the least people they perceive to be Walmart buyers.
     
  8. MartinS

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    "They will strike a balance..." Very well put Pilot. Forget motives and politics, just do what you can to let them know we are heavy on the scales. This is combat, keep it direct and simple.
     
  9. 22-rimfire

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    Walmart are certainly not anti-gun. If they were, why would they sell any firearms, ammunition, or accessories? They are a business and as a business their entire reason for existance is to make money by buying products and selling them at a profit consistantly. They are very good at it. You can rationalize and say they provide a public service and so forth, but they are purely a business.

    They sometimes (or often?) use their retail "power" to pressure manufacturers in terms of price and so forth. They say that if Walmart carries your widgit for sale, you will be successful unless your manufacturing costs are too high. That is clout! But Walmart does have its significant competitors and Target has made steady gains. You don't see Target selling guns or ammunition. Appreciate Walmart for what it is... a business that tries to provide products for a wide range of consumers and all in one place. I for one shop at Walmart on a regular basis and seldom visit a Target store.

    A Walmart gift card is about the only gift card I might actually use without serious fore though.
     
  10. xXxplosive

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    They are about MONEY........and if they make the wrong decision here....their stock will fall as well as their capitalization and loss of customers......that's what they care about....heck, they won't even provide insurance or benefits for their workers....Money, Money, Money.
     
  11. itchy1

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    I would like to know what % of Walmart's revenue comes from EBT cards and other indirect forms of government transfers. I doubt that Walmart would do anything to upset the big government hand that so freely gives $$$$$ to a large segment of their customer base. Their sporting goods sections are relatively small compared to the rest of the megastore. They know who butters their bread.
     
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    IMO..........the EBT customers are not spending 1K's on rifles and ammunition....they will buy there irrigaurdless.
     
  13. KTXdm9

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    Who's bluffing? There are plenty of other places to shop. There are lots of pro-gun folks who shop at Wal-Mart. If they take all their business elsewhere, I guarantee it would put a dent in Wal-Mart's profits. They are in the business of maximizing sales, not placating the current administration.
     
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    Hey.... Here's a great idea.... Let's get one jumbo retailer to drive all the other retailers in a market out of business, and then we can more easily manipulate what is made available to consumers.
     
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    Wallmart is a bit put off, that they never got to meet with Joe, after finally going there to take part in the nonsense. I would think that right now, they are more apt to side with us than the Pres.
    He also taxes the crap out of them, so I don't see a love affair with this administration.
     
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    first paragraph about being engaged in national dialogue! I don't think in the meeting with bigmouth biden anybody got to engage, so looks to me like they had the response ready to go so as not to look bad.
     
  17. gym

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    Well the other day I felt like momentum was starting to shift to our side of the debate. I just hope our President isn't so full of himself "now that he commited himself", that he refuses to listen to his own people, and goes totally nuclear on this one. I don't put it past him, although giving it to Joe is a good way to shift the responsibility to someone else, "he's good at doing that".
     
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    Like where? Wal Mart is the last national major general retailer that still carries firearms. Target is their largest competitor, and that company is very much in lock-step with the nanny state; They don't sell Tobacco, Booze, guns or anything resembling a weapon outside of kitchen wares. Wal Mart also carries A LOT more US-made products than Target and other box xtores.

    The profit margins on firearms and ammo are very small, and the sales of firearms and ammunition account for a very small percentage of total sales. I'd bet even us "gun people" who shop there likely don't spend more than 5-10% of our total in-store purchases on guns and related items over a given period.

    Again, where you gonna go? Target? They're the ambodiment of a softening nation. Even if only grocery, most grocery stores are union and notably more expensive. Out here, the two nearest stores (within 15 miles) are Wal Mart and Safeway. Safeway is union, overpriced and does not carry many other things I need. I'm not going to switch.

    That's a flat out lie.
     
  19. larryh1108

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    Bashing Walmart seems to be the PC thing to do yet more and more stores open and they continue to thrive. I guess we have a lot of closet Walmart shoppers.
     
  20. MudPuppy

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    About "form letters"--
    1) When you have a huge business, you hire Customer Service agents to respond.
    2) You want a correct and consistent message to inquiries
    3) You want to make more money in revenue than you spend

    It is useful to create a "standard response" that accomplishes this. If you're having tech or billing issues, yeah, you absolutely want that solved, but a "macro" that gets the correct information to you...I don't see the problem in that.

    And omg, walmart makes money. Much like everyone here, I told my boss, don't pay me, I'm not here for the money...

    What cuts through all of that is one thing that should jump out "In fact, we became a charter member of Mayor Bloomberg’s coalition against illegal guns " I don't like that about them at all.

    However, Walmart is big. BIG big. And having them stock rifles and ammo in such a mainstream retailer is good for the gun community, it shows it as "common and normal".
     
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    I wonder what Wal-Mart was offered when they met with the Biden folks. Apparently the gov was very insistant, at first Wal-mart did not have anyone to send but found some senior people to go after Biden insisted.

    If Wal-Mart gets an exemption from Obamacare, and supports the Biden 'findings', we will know. Whatever was said could not be said on C-span.
     
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