Originally posed by lechiffre
i remember reading that these were fakes stamped by their u.s. importer or distributer.
also the p-1 designation did not come until the early 60's,so that would be at least 15 years after the end of the war. given that i think left over parts would have been used up by then
You forced me to dredge my P1 out of the safe...
Whether the waffenampt is real or not is somewhat irrelevant to me, since I bought the gun from a distributor and there was certainly no mention of the waffenampt before I bought it.
I just examined the side of the slide pretty closely, and the waffenampt looks real to me (in other words, not 'recently' added).
There are two marks on the right side of the slide immediately in front of the serrations at the rear. The top one has an indistinct crown over something. The lower one has what first appear to be crossed cannons with a numeral 3 between the top parts of the 'barrels.' Upon closer examination, the 'barrels' look more like map cases or rolled parchment documents, or something similar. The waffenampt appears just to the right of the upper mark. It looks original but, obviously, it could be a fake.
Why anyone would have bothered to take such care to do such a good job of faking it way back then is another question.
As I mentioned above, Manurhin began manufacturing P1 pistols in 1963. The one that I have has a very thinly annodized aluminum frame without the reinforcing hex bolt and has a standard, original type P-38 slide without the later firing pin/cocking indicator change. The slide is marked (on the left side) MANUFACTURE DE MACHINES DU HAUT-RHIN (in two lines) followed by the Manurhin 'crest' (with 'Made in France' underneath), followed by PISTOLET P1 over '9mm x 19', followed by the last four digits of the SN. All numbers on the gun match, SN 2288xx, and the condition is near new.
The importer's mark is A.E.CO over N.Y.C., and is found on the right side of the frame above the front of the trigger.
For what it's worth...
Forrest