Walther PPK/S .22 LR

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The silver finish on the Walther PPKs looks exactly like the finish on my old cap pistol. Ugly.
 
Can anyone tell me if the new made magazines will work & if the grips will interchange with the older models? And if they do how much do the magazines cost? I would like to find some slimmer grips for it. Any suggestions on those?
 
You might consider Karl Nill grips for your PPK. Attractive wood. Available from MacTec Sales.
 
My old Walther .22LR PPK/S is the French/German model and is a really fine gun. It's accurate - though not comparable with a Bull Barrel MK1 or Victor - and reliable and great fun to shoot. All the PPK series have heavy first trigger pulls but the single action pull is quite nice. I have no experience with the new ones.
 
rcmodel said:
Comparing a .22 PPK/s to a Browning Buckmark, or Ruger MK??? is just not even a fair comparison.

They are not the same class of gun in size, weight, or accuracy.
And were not intended to be.

The .22 PPK/s makes a fine understudy if you carry a .380 PPK/s or PPK

If you buy a .22 PPK/s for anything other then it's small hip pocket size, or similarity to your center-fire PPK?
And/or fun plinking change of pace with what used to be cheap .22 ammo capability?

You got your wires crossed on the way to go gun shopping to buy a full size .22 target pistol.

rc
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Good points, although the PPK/S, Ruger, and Buckmark are at the same price point which means some comparision is valid. But you are correct that they are different styles with different intended purposes.

If I was in the market for the PPK/S 22lr, I would give a heavy consideration to the Bersa. Most reports seem to be positive on them (some ammo sensativity, but that is common in 22 autos). Unless the PPK/S is proves to be more accurate or reliable than the Bersa, the Bersa does have the advantage of costing a little less and being able to stand up to a higher melting point :)
 
OK, I'm getting old and forgetful but I knew I saw aluminum mentioned in the article in AR about Walther so I reread it and I quote.

The nickle PPK/S follows the layout of the original, but it is rendered a mix of materials. Umarex's engineers use steel, die-cast metal and polymer: a common theme in all their guns. For example the SLIDE is polished ALUMINUM yet the actual breechblock dovetailed and pinned into it is steel. The frame is polished die-cast metal, which gives the gun a weight-24 ozs.- similar to it's centerfire cousin. The capitals are mine.

No where does it address what alloy the die-cast metal is.

Your opinion of the gun is YOUR opinion. Personally I think it will be OK and hope it is as I do know this for a fact. If my wife wants one she will buy it despite what anyone else's opinion is. :D
 
Hopefully I'm not too late... Don't buy one!!!

I own a few Walthers in .22, .32 and .380 ...German-made PP, PPK, PPK/S

The new ones are not quality - in my opinion they are of the same level as a $200 pistol.
 
If I was in the market for the PPK/S 22lr, I would give a heavy consideration to the Bersa. Most reports seem to be positive on them (some ammo sensativity, but that is common in 22 autos). Unless the PPK/S is proves to be more accurate or reliable than the Bersa, the Bersa does have the advantage of costing a little less and being able to stand up to a higher melting point
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This is a great point. When I started reading this thread, I immediately thought that the Bersa/Firestorm offering is much more of an apples-to-apples comparison than any Ruger/Buckmark would be to the new Walther.


I have no experience with the Walther, but I do with the Bersa. Steel slide, aluminum frame. TennJed's assessment regarding the Bersa is fair and I tend to agree with it.
 
I don't know the FMV price but I do know they are highly valued on the used gun market. I have been offered $1000.00 for mine 2 times now! One fellow got very mad that I would not let it go for that price! But it has some sentimental value now & I didn't and don't want to sell it. I felt the price offer was very fair & would have done so if not for the sentimental value. Mine is in very good shape & still looks new. Don't know if that helps determine the value. I have been told they were a collectors items now. Good luck in your search but I think you should check out the Bersa & the Dawoo if they still are available.
 
Yes, Umarex aquired Walther some time back, but the Umarex factory in Arnsberg, Germany (which manufactures many varieties of airsoft toys, starting pistols, and potmetal rimfires sold under many different brand names, including Umarex, Colt, HK, Walther, and S&W) is a completely separate operation from the Walther factory in Ulm, Germany, which manufactures very high quality Walther firearms such as the P99, PPQ, PPS, and a few models of Olympic-style pistol.

The analogy here is that Volkswagen owns Porsche, but there's a big difference between a Rabbit made at the Volkswagen factory in Wolfsburg, and a 911 made at the Porsche factory in Stuttgart.

OK, maybe that's a bad analogy, since Rabbits are reliable, as opposed to most Umarex products! :D


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There is a different proof mark for each factory. The new PPK/S has the Umarex factory proofmark rolled on it, not the regular Walther factory that centerfire guns come from
 
tubeshooter said:
This is a great point. When I started reading this thread, I immediately thought that the Bersa/Firestorm offering is much more of an apples-to-apples comparison than any Ruger/Buckmark would be to the new Walther.


I have no experience with the Walther, but I do with the Bersa. Steel slide, aluminum frame. TennJed's assessment regarding the Bersa is fair and I tend to agree with it.
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+1 on Bersa/Firestorms. Aluminum frame, steel slide. No, they're not Ruger Marks or Browning Bucks but plenty accurate enough for an afternoon of fun plinking.
 
I've fired the new PPK/S and the Bersa thunder,,,

I am a bit biased as I own the Bersa 22 and 380,,,
I shoot them quite often and love them.

A friend just purchased the Walther/Umarex handgun,,,
While they feel very similar in your hands,,,
The PPK/S is not as nice a handgun.

The DA trigger on the PPK/S is very heavy,,,
One can only hope it smooth's out a bit with some use,,,
It fed and shot reliably with CCI Mini Mags but choked on Federal bulk.

Accuracy is about what one would expect from a short barreled pistol,,,
I hit better with my Bersa than with the PPK/S,,,
But that was probably familiarity.

I don't think it's a bad gun at all,,,
But it's true niche is as a nostalgia piece,,,
For less money the Bersa or the Ruger SR-22 are much better shooters.

If I had a PPK chambered in .380,,,
I might consider this as a companion piece,,,
But all in all, I was singularly unimpressed with the PPK/S.

Aarond

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