Wanted: info on Corsair Jager 36 cal SxS cap and ball pistol

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Hi
My first post.. thank you in advance for any help.

I just purchased a double barrel Corsair pistol as a project. It is being shipped. I was wondering if anybody possibly had PDF files of owner manual for one of these that I could download. Also looking for load data.

It seems there are some general rules of thumb for black powder loading that I can follow but I would like to get the information confirmed before I shoot it.

I have a CVA replica of I believe a colt or a Remington 1861 Navy revolver. I built it as a kit about 35 years ago it's a 44 caliber and I shot it a few times but didn't shoot it a whole lot. I had a flask with a powder measure on it that was supposed to be the proper load for it and some pyrodex p, an fffg black powder substitute and number 11 percussion caps.
The balls are .454 and are pressed into the cylinder with a ram right up against the powder.

That is pretty much my experience with black powder other than shooting a black powder rifle a few times that belonged to a friend.

I picked up this 36 caliber muzzleloader as a project. It is missing a screw or two and has a broken hammer spring on one side and the bore is a bit rough. I can fabricate a new spring and I can come up with the screws and the barrel I figure if I clean it out and there's some pitting left it may affect accuracy however it should still shoot. Worst case I can hone out the bore and make it a 36 caliber shotgun for squirrels..

It seems there is some leeway potentially in ball diameter and patch thicknesses but it seems that .350 diameter ball is standard for 36 caliber. I also have some .360 diameter triple ought buckshot that might work if it needs honed.

Can anybody confirm a couple rules of thumb I have come across...and do I understand this correctly..assuming you do not have load data from the manufacturer..

1. For target load use grain weight equal to caliber... So for 36 caliber I would use 36gn
2. Max load do not more than 115% of target load.
3. If you load pellets..use the same volume as you use powder.. so if your powder volume is 1cc..use 1cc of pellets
4. If you use pellets use a wad over the powder and a card over the pellets.
5. On double barrels you need to be sure your first shot does not dislodge your second shot when you establish a load recipe.

Another question..can you use ffg powder on a 36 caliber pistol? As I understand stand it, fffg is finer and is recommended for pistol calibers. How would this affect pressure and performance?
I still have at least half of the original can of the pryodex I bought years ago.

I just recently purchased some triple seven since it was all I could find locally but it is ffg. And hodgens website reload data appears to exclude muzzle loading data.

I reckon I need to get a couple black powder reloading books. I have several smokeless powder reloading books but I don't recall seeing anything rahrding black powder.

I have been actively reloading smokeless powder for years but recently thought this may be fun to get back into black powder and teach my grandson how to shoot. And I am sort of a hobbyist gunsmith.. no formal training but love giving a gun a second life and reaching it's shooting potential. Can't walk by anything broken and not try to fix it or improve it.

Thank you again if you have any information. Here is a picture attached of the pistol.
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You're pretty much on track with the .36 cal stuff, I like the .018 canvas duck from Wally world for patches. I prelube them as well and keep them in a tin box. With that short barrel on the Corsair I would start with 15 grains of powder and work my up 5 grains at a time till I found what the pistol likes. As to the revolver, those old CVAs were most likely made by Armi San Marcos and will have a short arbor and some timing issues all of which are easy to correct.
 
Thank you. The old revolver seemed to work pretty well at least I didn't notice any issues at the time but it was probably the first gun I messed with very much.

I just read an article posted on the forum about sorting out some issues on the revolvers. Lot of good info.

Have a good day
 
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