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Wanting new powder for 44 Mag.

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Randy1911, Nov 6, 2009.

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  1. Randy1911

    Randy1911 Member

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    Wanting new powder for 44 Mag.(UPDATED)

    I am want to try a different powder for my Ruger Super Redhawk in 44 Mag. I am currently using H-110. I know that it is very picky on how much you can vary the charge. I am getting about 5" groups off a rest @25 yds. I have tried 2400 and Unique. I am planning on using this gun for deer hunting this fall. I am shooting Hornady XTP 240 gr. bullets. I am open for suggestions.
     
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  2. Bailey Boat

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    I did some testing with my 629 not too long ago and had some sub 2" groups with Green Dot, Unique, HP 38 and 2400 using both 180 and 240 grain bullets. Velocities were in the "plinking" range of 1000 fps......

    PS: I'm originally from Arkansas, around Hot Springs...... Small world....
     
  3. rcmodel

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    5" off a rest at 25 yards is probably not caused by the the powder!

    If you have already tried H110, 2400, and Unique, and it didn't shoot 240 XTP's quite well with one of them, something else is wrong.

    rc
     
  4. jem375

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    He's right, if you can't group well with H110, WW296, 2400, or AA#9, sell the gun ...............
     
  5. ranger335v

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    " I am open for suggestions"

    Try another bullet. IF that won't work, sell the pistol.
     
  6. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

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    If it won't shoot 240 XTP's real well, I doubt it will shoot anything else real well either.

    They are the gold standard for accuracy in most any handgun caliber.

    rc
     
  7. uf-engineer

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    I use h110 & 2400 with 240gr xtp's. I have 1" groups out to 50 yards off the bench. My super redhawk is scoped.
     
  8. Shoney

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    You guys are way to polite.:what:

    Just tell him the loose screw behind the pistol needs adjustment.:eek:
     
  9. Randy1911

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    Thanks Guys

    I will see if I can find someone else to shoot the gun and elimate me out of the puzzle.:D:eek: I have only had this pistol for a couple of months. I am going to try some different bullet weights as well.
     
  10. 1911Tuner

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    Check the chamber throats to see if they're undersized or vary more than .001 inch.
     
  11. Walkalong

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    If AA #9 or N110 won't shoot with those XTP's, it's the driver or a gun problem.
     
  12. Kernel

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    Try Hodgdon's Lil'Gun. It's putting up some pretty remarkable velocities. For top performance, I'd also encourage you to take full advantage of your Redhawk's generous cylinder length when developing handloads. This can have the effect of increasing powder capacity by as much as 20%. And by following proper handloading techniques, can increasing muzzle velocities by hundreds of fps.
     
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  13. Randy1911

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    I will get some sandbags and try again. I am currently shooting off cross sticks for a rest since that is what I am going to take hunting. I will be the first one to admit that it could be me. My biggest problem is I don't have a shooting buddy to have try it out for me(my wife shoots but she can't handle the 44). I am going to do some loading tonight and try to get to the range tomorrow.
     
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    I load with lil-gun and my SPR loves it. Burns clean, accurate, hits hard its a good powder.
     
  15. Ret.CWO

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    I have always used W296 for my power loads. 25 Grs. behind a 240 Gr. semi wad cutter. It is a MAX load. I use it in a Ruger Black Hawk 10 1/2 barrel and a Winchester 94A rifle. It's in the Winchester loading tables. Duplicates a factory load they sell. Has one heck of a wallop. Groups well at fifty yards with the 94A.:fire::fire:
     
  16. Slamfire

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    W296 is the same powder as H110, only difference is the variability due to lot to lot differences.

    I have used H110, 2400, AA#9 with many different 240 Jacketed bullets. All of these powders shoot well, but I prefer 2400 because you can cut the loads and still have excellent performance.
     
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    2400 & AA4100 are my 44 powders.
     
  18. buck460XVR

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    My 629 loves 240 XTPs and H110/W296. Actually it likes any 240 grain bullet and H110/W296. If you've got a long pipe. you might like IMR4227. Aint quite as fast as H110/W296, but is accurate and doesn't have the narrow parameters.
     
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    What do those 5" groups look like? Are they all over the place, strung vertically, strung horizontally or something else?

    Like the others have said, the bullet and powders you have already tried should have produced much better accuracy. If you have shot other revolvers better I would check the barrel for copper fouling because that will ruin even the best efforts at accuracy. Also like said above, check the chamber throats and even the barrel diameter if all else fails.

    Good luck finding the problem...
     
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    I have always used W296 for my power loads. 25 Grs. behind a 240 Gr. semi wad cutter.

    I guess I'm only slightly more conservative as I use 24 grains. I use Unique for mild to slightly warm loads. I shoot cast bullets almost exclusively.
     
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    My standard 44 magnum load is Lyman's 245 grain 429421 bullet pushed by 16.0 grains of Blue Dot.
     
  22. Sport45

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    Anybody tried Ramshot Enforcer for magnum loads yet?

    From the little I've seen it looks like it would fall somewhere between 2400 and H110/W296 in velocity.
     
  23. 243winxb

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    Are you using a Magnum primer?
     
  24. NCsmitty

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    Good point, 243winxb. H110/Win296 absolutely needs a hot primer for consistent ignition, which usually translates into target consistency.
    Whether this is the reason for the less than stellar target performance remains to be discovered.



    NCsmitty
     
  25. Ky Larry

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    My Model 29 likes 240gr Nosler JHP's,PMC LP Mag primers, and 19.2gr of AA#9. I use a slightly more snug crimp on warm loads than I use on my plinking loads. It seems to improve consistency. Keep us posted.
     
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