Warning - Fake Leupold scopes on Ebay

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EBay wants ducats. More sales, more ducats. Besides, being anti-gun, they don't have the expertise in optics like the SnipersHide gang. Some of those forgeries look pretty good. Probably good enough for a Ruger 10/22 with factory barrel. If nothing else, a movie prop! :p Nah, rubber scopes for rubber rifles. Much cheaper that way.
 
Good heads up, thank you. With so many troops buying personal gear, optics included, I worry that one of brothers or sisters may get taken by this guy or someone with similar business practices. I'm thinking of reporting this to the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) on my base. What do you guys think?
 
Gary, in all fairness they can't be expected to personally check out every one of the umpteen jillion items for sale. And they do react pretty quickly when someone points out that an item is fraudulent. Too much fraud -> no trust. No trust -> no ducats.
 
Lately, I've noticed a lot more Hong Kong-based sellers with 'Aimpoint' red dots for sale for $25 + $30 shipping. :rolleyes:

I've actually pointed a few of 'em out to eBay, but they don't care.
 
eBay doesn't sell products. It's just a 'hook-up' site to put buyers and sellers together. They try to prevent a lot of the more obvious scams so people will feel more comfortable using the service, but they really aren't obligated to do that at all. Would you expect the owners of your local mall to make sure that all of the Ray-Bans down at the Sunglass Hut are legit? Of course not. Providing space is their job - they aren't selling you anything.

Getting angry at eBay because you got scammed by a seller is like getting mad at the nightclub when you wake up next to a fat chick.
 
EGay doesn't give a rat's behind unless the real trademark holder gets involved. It says that in their items policy. Who you want to complain to is not the monkeys at ebay but Leupold and Glock and Aimpoint and Trijicon.

When they start jumping down ebay's throat they will take notice.
 
The sad part about the real world is that you can't expect someone to always be watching out for you. It is wrong for that guy to sell fake scopes and I hope Leupold's case against him has him banned from Ebay, but the simple fact of the matter is if you are going to spend that much money on a scope or ANYTHING you need to take the time to do some research to make sure what you are buying is the real deal. This applies to Ebay sales as well as any FTF transactions. Know what you're buying because no one else will care if you get ripped.
 
Looks like the seller has changed his feedback to "Private". Wonder why?

He also relisted the Leupold with a $500 "Buy It Now" price. He did put a snide little comment about "not being able to verify it as authentic and am officially selling it as a 'replica'" down in the description, but didn't put a thing about it in the heading. Whotta ripoff artist.

Brad
 
Getting angry at eBay because you got scammed by a seller is like getting mad at the nightclub when you wake up next to a fat chick.
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Cute, but not entirely a propos.

Is eBay responsible for this guy's actions? Clearly not. But according to their own terms-n-conditions, they do accept responsibility for not knowingly being used in fraudulant activity... The fact that they refuse to pull the listings for obviously fraudulant sales is what chaps my butt. They are capricious and arbitrary about enforcement of their terms-n-conditions, based apparently on the money trail the transactions left in their wake.
 
If you think fake scopes are bad...

Try shopping on eBay for an Omega watch. :barf: The fakes range from downright laughable to perrty close to the real thing, and then there are sellers who steal legitimate pictures of real Omegas from other websites to go with whatever brand of junk they are actually trying to pass off.

The most incredible ones, however, are the "Jackalope" watches that have somehow been photoshopped together, and have things like one date dial and then a digital date indicator, and in reality there are NO watches with two separate date indicators on them. God only knows what shows up in the mail after you win the bidding on one of these... :uhoh: In general, I think eBay does a pretty crappy job of policing their own system for this kind of stuff.
 
I could not find in the link posted any info on how they knew the scopes were fakes.

How did they know they were fakes?
 
If you read the post on the sniper's hide forum it explains how they knew they were fakes. Basically real leupolds have gold lettering and these have white lettering. Also all the serial numbers on the scopes on e-bay have the same number. Some were even missing the Leupold crest on the adjustment turrets.
 
First of all, any seller that keeps thier feedback comments private is likely doing so for a reason...like to hide thier previous complaints against them that would make others avoid them. CROOK!

They're everywhere though. The wife was looking at a fancy handbag on eBay a while ago. Was listed as a "LV" whoich is kinda the slang for the pricey and Hollywood start Louis Vitton brnad bags. No body was bidding on this sellers "LV" stuff. She finally put in a bid. Shortly after, she got a e-mail from another ebayer telling her that the bag was a fake and a whle explanation. She contacted the seller who agreed to nullify the winning bid she had placed (the only bid actually). I decided to wait a day or so and found another of this seller's "LV" bags. I innocently asked if it was in deed a real Louis Vitton handbag. He responed that yes it was a "LV" bag. Again, I asked if it was a real Louis Vitton or a knock-off fake called a "LV". That was months ago and I'm still awaiting a response.
All comes down to if the deal seems too good to be true, it proberly is. and of course - buyer beware!
 
Basically real leupolds have gold lettering and these have white lettering.
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They mentioned the white lettering but I just did another quick pass of the link and I did not see a mention of the gold lettering. I am not familar with Leupolds other than they are better than most.
 
They are capricious and arbitrary about enforcement of their terms-n-conditions, based apparently on the money trail the transactions left in their wake.
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They also pay attention to public relations/goverment pressure. E-Bay knew about the stolen MREs being sold for years until after Katrina brought too much attention and they stopped it.

Similar situation with Interceptor Vests and I believe SAPI plates.

NukemJim
 
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My wife has sold lots of stuff on evilbay(the problem is she's bought much more) and I could tell you a lot of horror stories, but most sellers’ are honest, so we fall back the old "if it sounds too good to be true, well it probably is".
 
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