cropcirclewalker
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Various strings have abounded lately about short barrelled shotguns.
Personally, I even started up one wherin you, the members of THR got to sit in on the jury box and decide a virtual case based on an even previous string.
The votes currently are 30 not guilty and 2 guilty. I did not vote and I maintain that the defendent was not guilty. That's 31 to 2 for acquittal.
Now, I arise from bed to ask.
Why did not the jury get to speak in the original Miller case?
Being the cynic that I am, I wonder if it was not some clever ploy by .gov to strip us of our God given rights.
No jury got to vote on Miller. No jury got to rule on the constitutionality of NFA 34. The district judge quashed the indictment.
.gov appealed and it worked it's way up to the Supremes. Hey, that seems only fair, but in retrospect, pay attention.
There was no advocate for Miller at the Supremes. Was that fair?
Sure Miller was dead at the time but we have been hobbled with this arguably crippled decision for almost 70 years. Precedents have been set by this stupid ruling.
Duh......
I know personally of US Navy Seals using sawed off shotguns in Viet Nam.
Please don't try to tell me that trench guns weren't used in WW1.
Next crime..........
They remanded the case back for trial.
What was the result of the trial?
What? No trial? Just because Miller was dead did .gov just win?
What did the jury have to say about the constitutionality of NFA 34?
IANAL but somebody who is could probably enlighten me.
When a jury nullifies a law, does the law get nullified?
The jury is allegedly the last defense of the people over tyranny. Like Prohibition, so many juries failed to find for the ridiculuous .gov in their bootlegging trials that .gov eventually (in an attempt to stop looking foolish) repealed Prohibition.
If a jury had ever been allowed to rule on Miller and had found him not guilty, would NFA been repealed?
Just asking.
Personally, I even started up one wherin you, the members of THR got to sit in on the jury box and decide a virtual case based on an even previous string.
The votes currently are 30 not guilty and 2 guilty. I did not vote and I maintain that the defendent was not guilty. That's 31 to 2 for acquittal.
Now, I arise from bed to ask.
Why did not the jury get to speak in the original Miller case?
Being the cynic that I am, I wonder if it was not some clever ploy by .gov to strip us of our God given rights.
No jury got to vote on Miller. No jury got to rule on the constitutionality of NFA 34. The district judge quashed the indictment.
.gov appealed and it worked it's way up to the Supremes. Hey, that seems only fair, but in retrospect, pay attention.
There was no advocate for Miller at the Supremes. Was that fair?
Sure Miller was dead at the time but we have been hobbled with this arguably crippled decision for almost 70 years. Precedents have been set by this stupid ruling.
Could that absence of evidence be as a result of no Miller advocacy?In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a 'shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length' at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.
Duh......
I know personally of US Navy Seals using sawed off shotguns in Viet Nam.
Please don't try to tell me that trench guns weren't used in WW1.
Next crime..........
They remanded the case back for trial.
What was the result of the trial?
What? No trial? Just because Miller was dead did .gov just win?
What did the jury have to say about the constitutionality of NFA 34?
IANAL but somebody who is could probably enlighten me.
When a jury nullifies a law, does the law get nullified?
The jury is allegedly the last defense of the people over tyranny. Like Prohibition, so many juries failed to find for the ridiculuous .gov in their bootlegging trials that .gov eventually (in an attempt to stop looking foolish) repealed Prohibition.
If a jury had ever been allowed to rule on Miller and had found him not guilty, would NFA been repealed?
Just asking.