WASR and AK74 type muzzle brake?

[rugerdude]

It is possible to put an AK-74 or 74-type muzzle brake on a WASR-10, WASR-2 or GP-WASR?

I'll probably be getting a WASR soon, and I like the looks of the '74. Does anyone seel such a device? Will it work on the entire WASR line of rifles?

Thanks.

 

[Flyboy73]

I just put on a AK-74 type muzzle brake on my WASR2. I got the brake from Tapco. Also plan on putting on the slant brake on my WASR10 tonight. Will post pics after i am done with the WASR10

Took me a while to find the threading parts (14x1 LH DIE and TAT) for 5.45. Matter of fact got the 7.62 and 5.45 TATs and die yesterday.

I am sure the tapco brake would fit on either WASR.

Tapco Brake

http://www.tapco.com/proddesc.aspx?id=fc098309-a528-4d13-b748-47eddc023085

My other thread about putting on a AK47 brake on my WASR2

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=3238503#post3238503

Now it also depends on if the WASR you buy is threaded or not. My 2 and 10 were not. If you buy one that is thread you will need to see what threads it has to see about getting the brake. The brakes i got uses the standerd 14x1 LH threads.

If they are not threaded, you will need to get the muzzle retaining pin and spring, which does into the Front site base and a TAT and die for threading the barrel.

I will probally sell my threading set after i am done with my WASR's. So if you want to get the threading set let me know.

Brion

 

[Flyboy73]

I think too if you don;t get a USA made brake,(you can get them from tapco, Brownells,etc) you might have 922r compliance issues.

Brion

 

[MudPuppy]

You could have compliance issues.

I think mine had 3 for FCG,1 for PG, and 2 for magazine-follower and floorplate. The slant brake, iirc, was romanian.

 

[Clipper]

Is anybody actually worried about being in compliance with that stupid reg? Who's gonna check you? How will they (or you) prove where any of your parts originated? who cares? And why does anyone need a muzzle brake on an AK? Mine doesn't hardly kick enough to disturb the sight picture...

 

[Flyboy73]

I prefer to keep my guns legal. The US parts are very plainly stamped US on them. Why do we want a muzzle brake. Hard to answer for everyone, but for me it makes it look more like the orginal. I think it looks great. Why do put anything on a firearm, its all to your taste.

Brion

 

[weaselchew]

If you are thinking of getting this WASR locally, you probably can look through their stock (if they have much) and pick one that's already threaded. Some come unthreaded, some threaded with a nut tack welded in place, others threaded with slant brakes on them... When I was looking, all they had were threaded with nuts welded on. It's pretty easy to cut the weld and take the nut off though - just remember it's LH thread.

Cope's Distributing also has AK74 brake, stamped Made in USA. http://www.copesdist.com/ak47.htm (about 2/3 down the page on the right) for $14.99.

One thing I've always been curious about is some people market "US made" brakes/flash hiders, but they are not stamped. How would you prove it's a US made one? Actually, on the same page, right above the 74 style, the birdcage flash hiders are "made in USA", but if you click on the picture, they are not stamped at all. I've seen some at shows where I was told "it's US made" but the part has no mention of it on it. Would you have to "prove" to ATF/whomever it's really US made if it's not stamped?

 

[dfariswheel]

"How would you prove it's a US made"

All the foreign made AK-74 type flash hiders are MILITARY parts that are not made like the US brakes, which are more along the lines of "look-alike" parts.

Most genuine military AK-74 brakes are two-piece units with pressed-in baffles.
The only USA made AK-74 brake I know of that's actually made to genuine military specs and design is the excellent unit made by AK-USA.
This one does have the pressed-in baffle system.

Almost all the US made AK-74 units are one-piece and plainly not foreign military issue.
Marking AK parts with "Made in the USA" is a compliance issue, but I've never heard of a single case where an individuals rifle was inspected by a Federal authority to detect how many US made parts were in it.
If you make a good faith attempt to comply with the law, the only time you're going to have someone closely inspecting the rifle for complaint parts, is when you're already in BIG trouble for something else.

In the case of an AK-74 muzzle brake, it would be up to the authorities to prove it's NOT a US brake.

In other words, try to comply with the law, install a US made AK-74 brake and don't worry about it.

 

[MudPuppy]

If you never have a run in, its doubtful anyone would take the time to look--or care.

But if someone with a badge takes an interest in you and your rifle, you just brought a whole lot of extra trouble on yourself and possibly your right to ever own a gun again. So, YES, i make sure I follow that stupid law. That's not a misdomeanor and it's not just a fine.

Not to mention this is the highroad and any suggestion that anyone disobey the law is downright frowned on here.

 

[Gewehr98]

It's a stupid law, but it is law until we the voters can someday change it.

Is anybody actually worried about being in compliance with that stupid reg? Who's gonna check you? How will they (or you) prove where any of your parts originated? who cares?

Who cares? As an FFL holder, I prefer to stay out of Club Fed, myself.

So all my AK variants meet the "10-of-20" rule.

That way, I know I'll never be the test case. Somebody else can step up to the plate on that one. Even if you win a protracted legal fight against the BATF, you lose. ($$$$$$)

Nor is defying a gun law something I'd advertise on one of the premier gun forums on the Web.

 

[Flyboy73]

My thought too. Its a dumb law, but i will keep my guns legal.


Back to the orginal post, if you put on a non US made brake, you could have comliance issues. I am not sure of the part count on the WASR. But i put on US made to be sure.

Brion

 

[rugerdude]

Does anyone know if the GP-WASR has muzzle threading? It has the slant brake, but I have no idea if it's permanently attached or not.

If it's threaded, then I've got a few less issues.

 

[ConfuseUs]

Is there a special trick to removing a slant brake on a threaded muzzle?

 

[weaselchew]

If there's a slant brake on it, I doubt it's welded on, they typically weld the nuts on to it so you can't "easily" get to the threaded barrel, I believe. Even the welds on the nuts are fairly small and can be cut through in no time.

There should be a retaining pin you have to push in so you can unscrew the brake (and it's left hand thread, so turn it the "wrong" way)

 

[ConfuseUs]

I've tried that and had no luck removing the brake with a monkey wrench. I was wondering if there is a special wrench for the purpose out there, or what others have had to do to remove that sucker.

 

[dfariswheel]

Again, the AK normally has a spring-loaded pin that locks muzzle attachments in place, and the muzzle is LEFT HAND threaded, You unscrew the opposite way as normal right hand threads.

If you see NO spring-loaded pin on the sight base, the brake is welded or brazed on.

If you can't unscrew the brake, it's almost certainly either welded or silver brazed in place.
If it's factory, it's welded.
Look around the brake and you'll most likely see a small bead of weld holding it in place.
You'll have to use a jeweler's wire saw or a small Dremel cut-off wheel to cut the weld.

If you see no weld, and the rifle was bought used, it's probable someone silver brazed the brake on.
You have to heat the muzzle to a red heat of around 1100 to 1200 degrees to melt the braze as you unscrew it.

Most likely case is: The brake is welded in place, or you're still trying to turn it the wrong way.
When looking down the barrel from the muzzle, unscrew the brake by pushing in the detent pin and turning the brake CLOCKWISE.

Again, if there IS no locking pin, the brake is almost certainly welded or brazed, and no amount of wrench work will turn it.

 

[sharkhunter2018]

The WASR-10 GP's have threaded muzzles, atleast mine and two others that i know of are. Now, im not a fan of the slant muzzle brakes. It causes mine to recoil in sort of a semi circle. I had done some searching for brakes online, and found several i like. I got my brake off to find that it is right hand thread, unlike those of some friends which are left hand. Almost every brake I found was LHand the few that were RH were styles i did not like.

A few were listed as reverse thread. I assume that means LH, am i correct?

 

[ConfuseUs]

Thanks for the info dfaris. I looked at mine and the brake isn't welded on but it won't turn so it must be silver soldered in place.