presspuller
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Give this a look over. May change some minds about WD-40
Give this a look over. May change some minds about WD-40
Wd-40
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WD-40 is an excellent water displacer, but a terrible lubricant and a terrible long-term preservative. Over time, WD-40 will evaporate and oxidise leaving a gummy film that will tend to promote, rather than inhibit, oxidation.
That test was conducted over a grand total of 72 hours. If you are in the habit of recleaning, lubing, and preserving your entire gun collection every 72 hours, then WD-40 might work well for you.
In my experience, leaving WD-40 coated tools or guns in less than ideal storage for long periods is an excellent way to get a beautiful, uniform coating of rust on them.
Think Cosmoline. You don't have to apply it with a putty knife. A thin film will do nicely.
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WD-40 is an excellent water displacer, but a terrible lubricant and a terrible long-term preservative. Over time, WD-40 will evaporate and oxidise leaving a gummy film that will tend to promote, rather than inhibit, oxidation.
That test was conducted over a grand total of 72 hours. If you are in the habit of recleaning, lubing, and preserving your entire gun collection every 72 hours, then WD-40 might work well for you.
In my experience, leaving WD-40 coated tools or guns in less than ideal storage for long periods is an excellent way to get a beautiful, uniform coating of rust on them.
Think Cosmoline. You don't have to apply it with a putty knife. A thin film will do nicely.
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Omaney
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To clean: Whatever's lying around then blow it out.
After that:CLP
What the heck is "Stoddard Solvent"?
After that:CLP
What the heck is "Stoddard Solvent"?
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It is basically a good grade of paint thinner, AKA petroleum distillate, mineral spirits, naphtha, etc. Coleman fuel is similar to "white gas", another petroleum distillate. These vary somewhat in their volatility and flammability.
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It is basically a good grade of paint thinner, AKA petroleum distillate, mineral spirits, naphtha, etc. Coleman fuel is similar to "white gas", another petroleum distillate. These vary somewhat in their volatility and flammability.
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makarovnik
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WD-40 will clean and protect your gun from rusting. It is not a good lubricant and will ruin wood. Don't get it on your wood furniture. I like to use Gun Treatment. I think it's from Birchwood Casey. It does a really good job of cleaning because it has solvents in it, it is an excellent lubricant and it smells good. It's also pretty cheap.
Sometimes I even use Simple Green with hot water to clean and then 3 in 1 oil to lubricate and protect.
Sometimes I even use Simple Green with hot water to clean and then 3 in 1 oil to lubricate and protect.
Blue Brick
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Today I cleaned and inspected all my firearms and there was no rust on any of them. WD-40 does it again.
Sunray
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WD-40 will clean electronic contacts, but it won't remove carbon or anything else gun shot related. It's not a bad light penetrating oil, but it's not for cleaning firearms. (Neither is deisel fuel or kerosene. Using either is very old technology.) It's ok for protecting steel in wet weather until you can do a proper cleaning. It won't bother bluing or any other firearms finish though.
You don't need a parts cleaner to clean firearms either. However, you can buy litre/quart bottles of Hoppe's #9. That is made for cleaning firearms.
You don't need a parts cleaner to clean firearms either. However, you can buy litre/quart bottles of Hoppe's #9. That is made for cleaning firearms.
You apparently didn't bother looking at the Brownell's tests.WD-40 I'm sure is not a high profit item, yet it did very well in their tests. I have used it for more than 30 years with no ill effects. I worked 23 years at a refinery and though we had access to diesel ,kerosene, and a dozen different light lubricating oils we bought WD-40 by the barrel for the instrument shop, machine shop and even the electric shop.
bluetopper
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Oh it does!
My pistols get not only a cleaning with diesel, but a bath in it quite frequently.
My pistols get not only a cleaning with diesel, but a bath in it quite frequently.
Ghostrider_23
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Diesel Fuel???????
WOW Diesel Fuel
Will that harm the finish of the guns????????
WOW Diesel Fuel
Will that harm the finish of the guns????????
.38 Special
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Thanks for putting up that link.
Bottom line: cool people don't use WD-40 on guns. The only people who use WD-40 on their guns are old-timers who just want something that works and don't care if it's not flashy or expensive or doesn't have "tactical" in the name.
Tom Fury
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+1 on primers
Have used WD40 with no ill effect as a primary degunker, but Hoppes for a cleaner with no ill effects; (rust problems) primary (ahem) concern is that it is a penetrating oil which can get into ammo and neutralize primers. Use sparingly.
Cheers, TF
Have used WD40 with no ill effect as a primary degunker, but Hoppes for a cleaner with no ill effects; (rust problems) primary (ahem) concern is that it is a penetrating oil which can get into ammo and neutralize primers. Use sparingly.
Cheers, TF
Ghostrider_23
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Diesel Fuel
I would like to know more about using diesel fuel as a cleaner
I would like to know more about using diesel fuel as a cleaner
1SOW
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-1 WD-40
+1 Rem oil
I'd bet a thread about oil would find Rem Oil high or near the top of the oil list.
Anyone use 5wt Mobil 1 synthetic?
+1 Rem oil
I'd bet a thread about oil would find Rem Oil high or near the top of the oil list.
Anyone use 5wt Mobil 1 synthetic?
People say "why use WD 40 when there are dedicated gun products that work better?" I have a plastic storage bin full of dedicated gun cleaning products that DON'T work as good as WD 40. I've been doing corrosion tests as a hobby in my garage for almost 4 years now. Anyone who doesn't think WD 40 can prevent rust well hasn't ever tested it against other gun preservatives. Here's the top contenders I've noted over several corrosion tests run with saltwater and tapwater on bare framing nails. Corrosion X, BF-CLP, Hoppes Grease, Outers Gun Oil, WD 40 etc.
Rem oil usually looks as bad as the control nail(bare steel) after 2 mistings of saltwater. It is basically useless against rust. Rem oil is 50-55% mineral spirits which is why it wont congeal and gum up. It has very little oil that CAN congeal. That doesn't mean it's a great lube.
Even though WD 40 is a great rust preventative I still don't use it on my guns. I used to for years without a problem though. Now I have products that work a little better, but not much. I have a whole bunch of products that work worse.
Ed's red would be perfect for a parts washer. I use it all the time.
If anyone wants to know how their lube stacks up in the corrosion dept. I can maybe tell you. I've tested over 60 different gun lubes,oils, greases, etc.
Rem oil usually looks as bad as the control nail(bare steel) after 2 mistings of saltwater. It is basically useless against rust. Rem oil is 50-55% mineral spirits which is why it wont congeal and gum up. It has very little oil that CAN congeal. That doesn't mean it's a great lube.
Even though WD 40 is a great rust preventative I still don't use it on my guns. I used to for years without a problem though. Now I have products that work a little better, but not much. I have a whole bunch of products that work worse.
Ed's red would be perfect for a parts washer. I use it all the time.
If anyone wants to know how their lube stacks up in the corrosion dept. I can maybe tell you. I've tested over 60 different gun lubes,oils, greases, etc.
Horsemany, try that test again and add a decent brand of automotive paste wax.
Ghostrider, you think your gun is something to be babied? Firearms are designed for war. Dirt, grease, spilt diesel, whatever. You really think diesel will harm your guns? (don't dunk the wood though)
A bucket (or drum) of diesel is commonly used cleaner for military weaponry. Low flammability v. other common solvents & easy to find anywhere (fyi, "diesel" is the only word that is the same in every language in the world).
Ghostrider, you think your gun is something to be babied? Firearms are designed for war. Dirt, grease, spilt diesel, whatever. You really think diesel will harm your guns? (don't dunk the wood though)
A bucket (or drum) of diesel is commonly used cleaner for military weaponry. Low flammability v. other common solvents & easy to find anywhere (fyi, "diesel" is the only word that is the same in every language in the world).
CWL
I've tested; Turtle Wax, NuFinish wax, SCJOhnson Paste wax, BlueWonder wax, and Rennaisance Wax(made for her majesty the queen it says on the bottle). Waxes don't stack up well compared to good oils and greases. They are better than the bad oils though(Rem oil). Remoil has a new oil called "moistureguard". It has VCI in it to prevent rust. It's one of the only oils I ever tested that was WORSE than plain Rem oil.
I've got tests that were sprayed over 30 times when I started these tests 4 years ago. They've been in my garage which gets over 100deg in the summers for 3 and 4years. Some of the early tests with BF CLP, Eezox, and Hoppes gun grease are STILL rust free. By contrast some products sold specifically for rust prevention of firearms will show rust after just a few applications. It makes you wonder who developed those products. Did they not test them while in development? Or do they think most people won't notice?
I've tested; Turtle Wax, NuFinish wax, SCJOhnson Paste wax, BlueWonder wax, and Rennaisance Wax(made for her majesty the queen it says on the bottle). Waxes don't stack up well compared to good oils and greases. They are better than the bad oils though(Rem oil). Remoil has a new oil called "moistureguard". It has VCI in it to prevent rust. It's one of the only oils I ever tested that was WORSE than plain Rem oil.
I've got tests that were sprayed over 30 times when I started these tests 4 years ago. They've been in my garage which gets over 100deg in the summers for 3 and 4years. Some of the early tests with BF CLP, Eezox, and Hoppes gun grease are STILL rust free. By contrast some products sold specifically for rust prevention of firearms will show rust after just a few applications. It makes you wonder who developed those products. Did they not test them while in development? Or do they think most people won't notice?
BPNovum
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Hey guys... a quick technical correction here... one of the posts mentioned Blue Wonder for blued guns only. Blue Wonder Gun Cleaner is safe on all guns, blued, stainless, nickel, polymer etc. Completely safe.
Let me know if you have any other questions....
Sorry, we have been off the boards for a while but will be around on a regular basis again.... More news coming soon!
Let me know if you have any other questions....
Sorry, we have been off the boards for a while but will be around on a regular basis again.... More news coming soon!
One Word for gun cleaning solution GUNZILLA. I bought it to try because of all the buzz about it in Iraq. It is truly a miracle liquid. I had a new .45 that had been test fired only and it looked factory clean. I cleaned it with gunzilla and it was bringing so much powder off off of the gun, I thought it was melting the grips and the rubber was coming off in my hands, but it wasn't it was powder residue you couldn't even see. I have used it for many other uses as well. I bought a 32 oz bottle for $19.95 off of Ebay. Google gunzilla and read for yourself. You can even buy it from the gunzilla web site. One of my friends just retired from USN and I thought I was telling him my secrete weapons for gun cleaning by letting him in on gunzilla and he told me the Navy buys it in 55 gallon drums to use it on their big guns. Google the stuff and read for yourself.
mgregg85
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Break Free CLP or Eezox seem to be the best for rust prevention. I use CLP for just about everything and I've had great luck with it. For a cleaning tub I'd use kerosene or diesel or simple green if you want something safer.
The Bushmaster
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Oh for crying out loud...Use auto products on automobiles and use gun products on firearms. And never the twain shall meet. Stop trying to find short cuts. There are none...
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