Weapons of Our Enemies

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  1. Speedo66

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    Weapons of enemies we’ve fought wars with, or ideological enemies, what do you have?

    Above is a WWII German paratrooper out the front gravity knife and a Chicom SKS.
     
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    JK.....well, sorta. :confused:
     
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    Garands, M16s, Thompson’s, you name it.

    All have been used against the forces of the United States of America.

    And on that number, many AK-47s, RPKs, and Dragunovs have been used by our many allies to help in our battles abroad.

    I prefer to not categorize weapons by classifying them as “ENEMY” guns. Seems a little tribalistic to me.
     
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    The same idiot who sent American troops to invade Mexico in 1916 (President Wilson) also sent American troops to invade Russia in 1918. Before we intervened in the Russian Civil War, we were supplying Mosin Nagants to the Czar. He was our bestest buddy, as he promised to pay for all those nice shiny Mosin Nagants. It did not turn out that way. His Government fell , and the Czar ended up worm food, before all those American made Mosin Nagants were sent to him. Given the location of the invasion, Siberia, American troops were armed with American made Mosin Nagants. The Archangel invasion proved to be another colossal failure, and of course with all failures, it is sort of forgotten.

    But, is the Mosin an enemy weapon, because it is Russian, or a friendly weapon, because we were shooting Russians with the things?

    Gotta wonder how a new American made M1891 made its way to the Finns.

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    Here’s five 91/30s and three M91 Dragoons
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    And a Russian captured K98
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    The primary weapon of the enemy of all of us is the main stream media, serving their corrupt overlords like the obedient dogs they are.
     
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    “No one needs that much power.”
    “It doesn’t make you manlier.”
    “A rifle is better.”
    “Revolvers are more powerful.”

    I don’t know if they’re enemies, per se. But they aren’t trying to enamor themselves to me.

    And yet, I shoot the Desert Eagle to one hundred yards with deadly accuracy and physical aplomb. I broke a steel plate in half, that a 44 Mag revolver didn’t even pock mark. And it’s legal for hunting where a (.223) AR isn’t.

    But, no, it doesn’t make me manlier. That’s what the motorcycles and bull riding are for.
    If a hundred and seventy doesn’t make you a man, eight seconds will…
    (Someday I’ll make it the whole eight seconds!:D)


    Thank you for saying it so I didn’t have to.:)
     
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    There aren't many nations that haven't been the Enemy of the US at one time or another so most any firearm not made in the US might qualify. But then quite often the enemy has been supplied by the US with weapons so even that might not hold true.

    GI bring back JP Sauer 38h: most likely captures in 1944 in Italy or North Africa.
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    At the Battle of South Mountain on September 14, 1862 Union forces captured a large number of Confederate prisoners. One Union colonel told his men to stack their smoothbores and take the Enfields of their opponents, one soldier wrote home "We upgraded our armaments at no cost to Uncle Sam."
     
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    Here's a list of some of the weapons I personally encountered from time to time in afg:
    Rifles:
    AK, of every version from every country that ever made them
    the occasional SKS and Mosin
    Various Enfields and Mausers
    Pakistani G3
    A US M1 Garand in serviceable condition was recovered from a cache, with no ammo
    A VZ58
    2 M82 Barretts of early design were recovered from a cache in Kandahar province in 2006 by our task force. No optics mounted. Would love to hear the story behind them.
    Sometimes antiques like Martini and Snyder rifles were found hidden away- never shot at by one, AFAIK.
    As of late, various versions of the M16 have been recovered from enemy forces, due to our practice of arming the "good guys" over there. The stuff always ends up somewhere else.

    MG's:
    PKM
    RPD
    SGM
    DP
    SGM
    DSHK
    Found a magazine for a BREN 303, but not the gun

    SMGs:
    PPSH41
    STEN

    Handguns
    Tok TT33's
    Makarovs
    Webley and Enfield break top revolvers
    S&W 9mm sigma- bought in large numbers to outfit the afg police, recovered in large numbers from the enemy "after".
    Serviceable sidearms were normally gifted to our interpreters, who were usually only issued an AK.

    Things that go BOOM:
    RPG
    Mortars
    107mm rockets triggered by hot-wire delays
    Mines and IED's made from arty shells, fertilizer, and anything else they think could be made to explode.

    Other:
    random single and double shotguns made by Baikal, sometimes sawn off.
     
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    Very true. ISIS in iraq and syria has epic amounts of US arms and equipment that the iraq army/police decided not to properly secure.
     
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    During the haitian vacation (1994 version) M1 Garands were everywhere. Of course, we weren't allowed to keep them. Some of the other stuff I personally recovered there:
    M1927 Thompson
    Lots of Taurus 38 revolvers- S&W model 10 clones
    Lots of Taurus 92 type 9mm pistols, but they all had euro-type mag releases on the butt
    Uzis. Lots of Uzis.
    2 T65 rifles were recovered by one of our teams- they are a taiwan-made M16 rifles piston operated.
    There were lots of cheaply made "gang banger" type handguns on the street- Lorcins, FIE- that type of trash. Presumably smuggled from the US in gang/drug type activity.
     
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    I have a Soviet 91/30, though we weren't really enemies yet with its issuer when it was made.

    I have an old Chinese SKS (not Norinco.)

    I have a Hi-Point C9. :D
     
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    I found a bunker full of 9M14 Malyutka (Sagger Anti tank missiles) about 30 years ago. Boy was it pretty when I blew them up.
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    Iraqi (Russian made) BMP with 73mm smoothbore gun. I have one foot on the driver’s seat.
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    There was a lot of stuff I wish I could have come back with. I found crates full of brand new or gently used AKs and variants from half a dozen countries. Cloned Russian pistols. And more explosive than I have seen at small US bases. Unfortunately the regulations against trophy bring backs is they had to be about as old as dirt to be "personal" weapons. The most recent weapon some of us came back with were Martini-Henry rifles they were selling outside Bagram airfield for less than $10 each. I still kick myself for not grabbing a few of those.
     
  17. Ru4real

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    Oh I see, you meant our OLD enemies.

    I was thinking weapons of our NEW enemies would be screen shots of AOC’s Twitter page and other similar nonsense.
     
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    The current weapons of our enemies, foreign and domestic, are the computer, Internet, and social media.

    I like the firearms of our old enemies much better.
     
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    I’ll add an odd one to that awesome listing: AR15 in 7.62x39, recovered after an attack on a Kabulian airport checkpoint.
     
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    1900 weapons lost or stolen? That averages almost 200 a year. With the strict inventory standards in the military, I find this extremely difficult to believe. Between weekly, monthly, cyclic, and change of command inventories, along with the extensive records kept when weapons go to training, a deployment, or maintenance shop- its just hard to swallow. I have seen the panic/insanity that happens when a weapon is "lost", along with the investigations and reporting requirements that occur when a weapon is missing. In almost every case, they are found- usually just temporarily misplaced, in my experience. Usually PVT Potato laid it down somewhere and it is found, or another dummy ended up with the wrong weapon at sign-out. Often it is a records mistake, and the "lost" weapon is actually in maintenance, but the paperwork was "lost". I have seen weapons turned in to the wrong arms room, or loaned to another unit without the right paperwork (and the weapon is discovered and returned). I am not referring to cases where weapons are "lost" due to mitigating circumstances. For example, all of the weapons lost in catastrophic combat events- almost all of the weapons in Operation Red Wings were "lost" by the SEALs who were killed on the ground in combat, and the others (and aircrew) that were killed when the MH47 was shot down and exploded into flames (along with the organic armaments for the helo). These "losses" have also occurred during other crashes of aircraft, and scenarios where IED's destroyed vehicles- along with everyone inside of them. Are these weapons being counted as "lost"? Are weapons issued to "friendly" indigenous forces in iraq, afg, and syria - who often desert with their weapons, abandon them, or are killed with their weapons -and bodies- never being recovered counted in these numbers?
     
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    I'm with FL-NC on this. If weapons were lost, it was during combat operations or from friendly forces losing them. As an Army machinist, I worked on a lot of weapons that the armorers could not fix. And let me tell you the paperwork and security measures I had to deal with were a big headache. And I have seen the same type of things happen as he did.

    It wasn't just PVT Potato that did this crap. When I was stationed d in Germany with the 40th Eng Bn. we had a 2nd LT put is M9 into a foot locker and didn't say anything to anyone about doing so. We were locked down for quite some time out in the field until that butter bar finally admitted to what he had done. Believe me it was all that the rest of the battalion officers and senior NCO's could do to keep that butter bar safe from the enlisted personnel.
     
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    The Viet Cong had many M1 Carbines that they took off dead and captured South Vietnamese soldiers. Of course they used them to shoot at us.
     
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