the Black Spot
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I would love to see S&W do a "Fitz" special in 45 colt
For those that say a Top Break is too weak for high pressure rounds. The Russians made one in .357 Magnum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP-412_REX
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Not sure that makes the case for a production top break. As mentioned up thread that Mark VII is a one of a kind hand built piece and has a five figure price tag.Quite right. And the currently produce Mark VII is a seven-shot, .357 Magnum.
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Quite right. And the currently produce Mark VII is a seven-shot, .357 Magnum.
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I wish other people would look at that picture closely, Swing, because looking at the chamber flutes and charge holes and cylinder length, it does not look like either a 7-shot or a 357 Magnum to me. It looks like a highly polished Mark VI with really nice grips. But like I say, I wish others would look, because I once missed seeing a cracked frame on an Erma 22.
Not sure that makes the case for a production top break.
I wish other people would look at that picture closely, Swing, because looking at the chamber flutes and charge holes and cylinder length, it does not look like either a 7-shot or a 357 Magnum to me.
Looks like a 6 shot, shorty cylinder to my untrained eye.
Larry
Thanks, Swing! Glad to see I was failing to see things again.
Sure, but Kaeto didn't say "production", he said "For those that say a Top Break is too weak for high pressure rounds.". It can be done; the Russian MP412 REX and the British Mark VII were/are both made in in .357 Magnum.
And there are current production top-break revolvers in lower pressure rounds like the, the NAA Ranger II (in .22 Magnum), the Indian IOF and Nirbheek (in .32 S&W Long) and the various Schofield repos (in .38 Special, .44/40, .45 LC, et al.).
You might enjoy this video. Cheers.
This picture is from the link I shared above.
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This gun is not technically a Bulldog! It is a Model 83, long frame (vs short) an improved model of the well known Metropolitan Police revolver, which is actually a descendant of the Royal Irish Constabulary(RIC) firearm design by Webley!The Webley Bulldog is not a top break revolver. It's a solid frame double-action side-gate loading revolver.
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It's too bad they cant' be imported, but webley knock off's are being sold by the thousands in India every day. They mane the Mark III in .32 S&W.This is the closest I can think of. The link is nearly two years old, I wonder if any have actually been produced?
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/a-new-british-made-handgun-the-return-of-the-webley-shot-show-2016/
It's too bad they cant' be imported, but webley knock off's are being sold by the thousands in India every day. They mane the Mark III in .32 S&W.
I like the profile changes to the barrel and some of the frame changes. What is the lump on the back strap for and those grips are super ugly. The guy walking in front of him while loading is a bit unsettling and the shooting in the air also a bit unsettling.
They also make a weird copy of the Browning 1910. Funny thing is once you have the permit to purchase one it's the same as having a CCW. Course the cost is astronomical - think these run about 80,000 Rupees or about $1,300
And you can only buy a certain amount of ammo per year
These are Bulldogs. No2s in 450, 442 & 380cf. Compared to the Model 83s below.
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The weapon is not designed for such pressures. .455 Webley is quite a bit lower pressure.
Average pressure for the .455 Webley round is 13200psi.Sorry for the late reply. Yes I know, but I reload .45 ACP and would ensure pressures are on the low end.