chaim
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OK, I am assuming here that in both cases you are looking at a gun that is at least minimally acceptable (for you). Which is more important for pocket carry, weight or size?
It seems to be generally accepted that a J-frame (or equivelent) snub is the largest and heaviest gun that can be carried in a pocket. For many they can go as large in an auto as a PPK/S, Bersa or Kahr MK/PM series. All these guns are about 20-24 oz in standard varients and as low as 13-17 in lightweight versions.
So assuming you are under 21oz, is a smaller gun better?
I've noticed that the aluminum alloy Taurus snubs are 17oz. The S&W .38spl aluminum snubs are 15oz. The Taurus titaniums are around 14oz, the S&W titaniums and scandiums are 12-13oz. The SIG 232 in alloy is 16oz, the Kahr PM series are about 16 or 17oz, and the Kel-tec P11 is about 14. The smaller (mousegun caliber) Beretta Tomcat is ~16oz, the NAAs are similar in weight to the lightweight snubs as well, but both are (again) smaller and trimmer. You don't really get lighter than some of these snubs or lightweight .380s and 9mms until you get down to .25acp and .22lr (not counting the one or two exceptions like the Kel-tec P32 and P3AT).
For pocket carry is weight more important? Would the lightweight snubs and larger but lightweight autos hide nearly as well as the smaller but similar weight and sometimes heavier guns like the NAA or Tomcat? Despite weighing about the same (and more than some of the snubs) would the smaller Tomcat or NAA hide better? Also, is this even worth asking. What I mean is, are the lightweight snubs (and autos like the PM9) light and small enough to carry and hide in a pocket easily enough that one doesn't need to look smaller (or lighter) even if they do disappear a little better?
It seems to be generally accepted that a J-frame (or equivelent) snub is the largest and heaviest gun that can be carried in a pocket. For many they can go as large in an auto as a PPK/S, Bersa or Kahr MK/PM series. All these guns are about 20-24 oz in standard varients and as low as 13-17 in lightweight versions.
So assuming you are under 21oz, is a smaller gun better?
I've noticed that the aluminum alloy Taurus snubs are 17oz. The S&W .38spl aluminum snubs are 15oz. The Taurus titaniums are around 14oz, the S&W titaniums and scandiums are 12-13oz. The SIG 232 in alloy is 16oz, the Kahr PM series are about 16 or 17oz, and the Kel-tec P11 is about 14. The smaller (mousegun caliber) Beretta Tomcat is ~16oz, the NAAs are similar in weight to the lightweight snubs as well, but both are (again) smaller and trimmer. You don't really get lighter than some of these snubs or lightweight .380s and 9mms until you get down to .25acp and .22lr (not counting the one or two exceptions like the Kel-tec P32 and P3AT).
For pocket carry is weight more important? Would the lightweight snubs and larger but lightweight autos hide nearly as well as the smaller but similar weight and sometimes heavier guns like the NAA or Tomcat? Despite weighing about the same (and more than some of the snubs) would the smaller Tomcat or NAA hide better? Also, is this even worth asking. What I mean is, are the lightweight snubs (and autos like the PM9) light and small enough to carry and hide in a pocket easily enough that one doesn't need to look smaller (or lighter) even if they do disappear a little better?