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weird picture on CNN of AK-47

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by evilelvis, Mar 27, 2008.

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  1. evilelvis

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    nevermind upon closer inspection I think it's the carry strap wrapped around the barrel
     
  3. FEG

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    The shooter is holding a gray bag or piece of cloth in his left hand, which blends into the masonry in the background.
     
  4. merk

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    I can see the gap between the upper and lower handguard?
     
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    It's the sling
     
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    At first I was gonna cry "Bad Photoshop" but it's the sling
     
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    yep.

    Jason
     
  8. Patrick Henry

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    Better question, which should always be asked regarding pictures like this one:

    "Who took that picture and how?"

    Unfortunately I was unable to see the picture in the context of whom it's supposed to portray, though I assume from the hood a "bad guy."

    How gentlemanly of the wicked Arab terrorist to pose for the western photographer's camera.

    Very crisp, clean shirt he's wearing too -- I wonder, do you think he used Tide with color-safe bleach or just kept it on the gentle cycle?

    Fake. Like 90% of the news.

    "Here Tod, put on this vest too you look more militaristic." :cool:

    Last but not least, most real Iraqi insurgents who trust their lives to Kalashnikovs I think would know mounting a scope is about the most ridiculous thing you can do to an AK 47.
     
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    the scope looks out of place. i cant see the mount. maybe be directly mounted tot he dust cover though
     
  10. Daemon688

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    Guy has a clean shirt and that = fake? Give me a break. The insurgents fighting us over there consist of foreign fighters and the Iraqi people themselves. They gotta melt back into the civilian population some how. Or maybe you were expecting to see a bunch of dirty arabs wearing turbans and robes? There has been plenty of pictures and video of insurgents firing on Americans.

    Like others had said, a little opitcal illusion is going on here. The sling is about the same color as the brick background.
     
  11. Patrick Henry

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    It's a combination of factors including the nice shirt which makes the photo look staged to me. Most people in that part of the world don't have brand new nice looking clothes.

    In fact if you follow the link you see a photo of "Iraqi militia" (supposedly US-allied) where the guys are all wearing really nice dress shirts and slacks like they are ready to go in for a day at the office. :rolleyes: But I don't think there is any insinuation by CNN they didn't pose for that shot.

    Maybe these guys work for CNN in Iraq and became "militiamen" for the camera?

    Exactly. How do CNN, FOX News, etc. get that video? I'm talking about video like the example at the top of this thread, which due to the angle or proximity of the shot suggests the cameraman was within enemy lines. You think the insurgents pose shots for our cameras? Or anybodys?
     
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    Given how they know the media supports their view on things moreso than America's, that wouldn't surprise me.

    Though, I still think it's crap. That scope is idiotic looking, and would have a bad mount to boot.
     
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    A Mahdi Army militiaman aims his weapon during a gunfight in Basra's Hayaniyah neigborhood. Iraq's radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr has ordered his followers to reject Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's call to surrender their arms as clashes with troops raged for a fifth straight day.
    (AFP/Essam Al-Sudani)

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    (AFP/Essam Al-Sudani)

    Google the photographer's name (Essam Al-Sudani) and you'll see that the same questions crop up.
     
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    The scope mount appears to be on the wrong side, whick leads me to believe the picture has been "flipped." This is a less common problem in the digital age (used to happen all the time with slides.) but it does still happen.

    As for the face the guy is clean, guys, come on. Iraq is a "place." The have books, TV sets, and barber shops and everything.

    The days of the middle East being a waste land of dung fires and so-called "camel jockeys" is a myth. Frankly, during the middle ages their culture was light years ahead of our.

    An insurgent doesn't look any different than anyone else. The just shoot in the wrong direction.

    JTR
     
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    nope, the sling mount is on the correct side.
    the scope is either photoshoped, mounted on soem REALLY low scope mount, or directly to the dust cover.

    i will agree with you, in the middle ages the middle east was way ahead of the west. however they didnt seem to catch the industrial revolution like we did.
     
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    that picture is fake...
     
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    I love the picture of the guy lining up a shot from behind the cinder blocks.

    If he moves an inch either way he's not behind cover anymore.

    Not saying that makes it fake, but it certainly looks contrived at first glance to me.
     
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    I'm going to have to say that I don't really understand how you all can keep arguing about something so stupid. This is obviously a real picture, it's a real AK, and you'd be surprised what insurgents can get their hands on over here. We are not fighting a bunch of unorganized grabasstic "ragheads," rather, we are facing well funded, well organized mercenaries. I say mercenaries, because all the "religious zealots", that were doing this for Allah are either dead or figured out that fighting us is generally a bad idea. All the violence today is either driven by politics or money. Oh, and last year when I was in Haditha, Iraq, we killed a bunch of guys who had on their persons: Gen 1 NVDs, 1 HK MP5, and a couple russian AT grenades. Not exactly a couple rusty swords, huh?
     
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    HK? You mean its not a knockoff? :eek: :p
     
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    what always got me with these pics is that these are the bad guys, I really never saw any bad guys while I was over there, one, but we new he was a bad guy and was playing him like a fiddle. Oh I'm sure I saw plenty of bad guys but they were just in blend in mode at the time.

    Thing is though, I feel if we can get a pic of the guy, we should be getting him dead. Hopefully the next pic in the progression of the first guy is where you still think you can see through the AK because of the sling but you know for a fact you can see through his head because of the 7.62 round that just ventilated his central cortex.
     
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    +1 Johnny and Joe
    The ethnocentrism present here is disgusting. The shirt is too clean? What? Too clean for your racist backwoods views? Used to media pics of people from another country being a certain way? Is this not the "High Road" and not the Aryan Brotherhood Forums? I had to rant a little, but I'm seeing this alot around here. All the Iraq vets I've talked to have respect for the Iraqis, maybe not love, but respect. Maybe some of you all should show some of that too.

    Moderators, you can have my membership to this forum of hate and ignorance.
     
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    Blathering about clean shirts aside, it does look as if the scope mount is actually on the dust cover itself. Here's a zoom:


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    i dont know what your all blathering on about racism and ethnocentrism.

    i made a clear and simple arguement about. it could be a staged picture ( happens all the time)
    im just saying

    A- it could be some crazy low scope mount which i would want one.
    B- the scope is mounted to the dust cover
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    C the scope is photo shopped on making a "gunman" into a "sniper" cause i mean, scopes are scarier right ( recently a journalist was photoshoping pictures to make battle damage to the sky line look worse)

    same scope on the FAL. (good trigger discipline too!) as well as the other AK picture. i think the scope is photo shopped on
     
  24. Still 2 Many Choices!?

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    That guy with the FAL is going to loose an eye if he fires that thing that close! I mean seriously, how short of an eye relief could that scope have?

    Still 2 Many Choices!?
     
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    Hmmmm

    Does the scope looked like it is mounted backwards? ? ? ?

    Isn't usually the bigger lens on a scope toward the target, not the shooter? ? ?
     
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