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Question number one:

Anyone know of an end-all solution to rust? I live in a humid climate (any Iowan knows how bad the humidity can be in this area), and I have had an issue with rust.

My K31 has rust on the butt-plate, but I scrubbed it off really good, degreased it, and put a coat of clearcoat on it for now.:cuss::banghead:

My Mosin gets rust on the bolt knob, and sometimes the receiver.:banghead:

My Savage gets it on the barrel only. Never on the receiver.:banghead:

My Marlin Model 80 gets in on the barrel, and scrubbing it off the barrel ended up removing the bluing :banghead::cuss: so now I have to get it re-blued.

My Steven's shotgun gets it on the barrel and receiver.:banghead:

My Astra has gotten the cancer on the front strap and back strap, along with bits of the slide, and scrubbing the rust off took some of the finish as well :banghead::cuss: so now I'm going have the pistol blued instead of the metal finishing the factory put on (don't know what it was).

But the biggest thing that just pissed me off was the rust was CAKED in the bore of my Turkish Mauser. CAKED. Upon scrubbing the rust out of the bore, I come to find out that the last two inches of barrel on the muzzle end has less rifling definition compared to the rest of the barrel! :banghead::cuss::fire::banghead::cuss:

The last time the Mauser and the Mosin were fired, they were both cleaned for the corrosive salts! And the Mosin's barrel is practically pristine! As pristine as a Mosin can seem to get!

The only firearm I have that hasn't been affected by rust is my Glock. Only one.

So here's the second question:

So now it's looking like I'll have to re-barrel the Mauser. As much as I DON'T want to. Isn't a way to save the one and still be any bit accurate as it was.

So, :( Any ideas on which caliber I should barrel this action? Or should I just leave the rifle the way it is and hope for the best?
 
Sorry to hear about your troubles. I live in the southeast and own similar guns, and have never had a rust problem. Guns I don't clean and shoot more than once every quarter get taken out of the safe and wiped down with an oily rag. Again, never an issue.

For background, where are these guns being kept? If you are keeping them in a space that isn't air-conditioned or otherwise has a dehumidifier, that would be your problem right there.

Second, if they are being kept inside and not in the garage, have you had your A/C system serviced or check lately? A poorly functioning or improperly sized AC system (particularly if it is significantly oversized for your home) might be the culprit. In addition to cooling, AC systems work as dehumidifiers, so if it isn't working right or of it is far too big for you space (and therefore the system would only run in short bursts) that could result in notably higher humidity inside.
 
What are/have you been using as a lube and cleaner? That would get my goat to; sorry.
 
First off, how and where doe you store you firearms? I live in south Louisiana and know a little about humidity and work on electronics that goes offshore so I know a little about corrosion. I keep some of mine in a safe and the rest in hard cases with a seal around the lip. I collect desiccant from where ever I find them. I keep a pile in a zip lock bag and throw a few in with each gun. I also like to use a sock with a little oil (gun oil or 3 in 1 oil) on it to wipe them down before I put them away. For the guns I use more often, I use a Rem oil spray or any silicon based spray lube that doesn't dry sticky.(don't want dirt and grime to stick to it).

As for the barrel, I have a friend that took a Mosin and had the barrel bored out to 410 gauge. He loves it.
 
I don't know if this will help you, but I wipe all my firearms down with Breakfree CLP, both interior and exterior and have not had any rust problems. The eastern area Pennsylvania can be very humid during the summer season, so I also run a dehumidifier for 4-5 months a year in my gun room/man cave. I also found that a silicone wiping cloth will do wonders in preventing rust if your firearms are handled frequently. They are also very inexpensive. Good luck to you.
 
CAKED. Upon scrubbing the rust out of the bore, I come to find out that the last two inches of barrel on the muzzle end has less rifling definition compared to the rest of the barrel!
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Are you inserting the cleaning rod from the bore end, or the muzzle end of the barrel?

Oh, and I sprayed the bolt of a mosin with Eezox two years ago and it's still slick and oily. that stuff sticks to guns like you wouldn't believe. Smells nice too.
 
Not sure about the AC system, I'm currently living with my parents. Guns are kept in my room, in a metal cabinet. There's a dehumidifier running right now, but I've never had the rust issue until about May in the past, and that's where the dehumidifier would be ran around the clock. Now, looks like I'm going to have to run it sooner now.

Now I think the barrel might be ruined on the Mauser, and am facing the possibility of having to get it re-barreled. I'm a little frazzled about this, but at the same time, I've been wanting to build a custom rifle, and the Mauser is a large ring Turk variant without the notch. But it's the principle of the matter.
 
What are/have you been using as a lube and cleaner? That would get my goat to; sorry.
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Break-Free CLP, and Hoppe's #9.

First off, how and where doe you store you firearms? I live in south Louisiana and know a little about humidity and work on electronics that goes offshore so I know a little about corrosion. I keep some of mine in a safe and the rest in hard cases with a seal around the lip. I collect desiccant from where ever I find them. I keep a pile in a zip lock bag and throw a few in with each gun. I also like to use a sock with a little oil (gun oil or 3 in 1 oil) on it to wipe them down before I put them away. For the guns I use more often, I use a Rem oil spray or any silicon based spray lube that doesn't dry sticky.(don't want dirt and grime to stick to it).
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Answered in my previous post. Basement, in metal cabinet, with dehumidifier (large one for houses troubled with humidity) running constantly.

As for the barrel, I have a friend that took a Mosin and had the barrel bored out to 410 gauge. He loves it.
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Mosin is fine, surpisingly. But I'm thinking more along the line of a modern caliber, one easier to find than 7.92 (8mm Mauser)

I don't know if this will help you, but I wipe all my firearms down with Breakfree CLP, both interior and exterior and have not had any rust problems. The eastern area Pennsylvania can be very humid during the summer season, so I also run a dehumidifier for 4-5 months a year in my gun room/man cave. I also found that a silicone wiping cloth will do wonders in preventing rust if your firearms are handled frequently. They are also very inexpensive. Good luck to you.
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I'm a firm believer of CLP. And wipe them down with a nice coat of it about once a month.

Are you inserting the cleaning rod from the bore end, or the muzzle end of the barrel?
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Always cleaned in-chamber, out-muzzle.


Oh, and I sprayed the bolt of a mosin with Eezox two years ago and it's still slick and oily. that stuff sticks to guns like you wouldn't believe. Smells nice too.
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Might put that on my shopping list.
 
I, too, live in the southwest and frankly, I've been spoiled by the generally low humidity out here. I remember back in NYC, if you didn't oil stuff down right away, it was bound to get rusty. Humidity will hit 8% around 3PM this afternoon with a dew point of 18°F. No frost on the pumpkin today, fer sure. Don't hardly have to even use a towel after a shower when it gets that crackly dry. Real nose-pickin' weather.

Steels vary in composition and they use different steels for different parts of guns. So some parts of a gun might rust more easily than others.
 
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Unfortunately so. Well, I have them scrubbed down, two of them need re-blued. One may need a new barrel. If I could get the camera to focus, I'd take a couple pictures of the affected bore. But it's a Kodak EasyShare and doesn't want to auto-focus in the right spot.
 
Its humid in this part of OK. My gun safes have Goldenrods. My antique Winchesters are waxed. Guns used infrequently get wiped down with MiliTec; the bores are swabbed with MiliTec: If not used; they are checked about once a year and re-oiled. Guns frequently used get oiled with Rem-Oil, Three in One Oil or other good oil.

Never saw home for years while working overseas. There has never been any rust on my guns.
 
Thinking about waxing mine, now. My firearms aren't fired anywhere near as much as I'd like. My Mosin finally went through 1030 rounds this year and I've had it since 2007. Mauser is still on its first 400-some-odd round tin, with 65 rounds left.
 
I Simoniz mine, use it on both metal and wood. If it will stay on your car for 6 months, think how long it will stay on a gun that is not left out in the weather.
 
I don't know if I'm spelling it correctly bu Ezoxx always comes out on top during tests. Military likes it.
 
I grew up in south florida and started hunting in the swamps . Still own the first firearms I bought in the mid '70's and never had rust issues. Allways used breakfree clp. Clean your guns and give them a good coat ,every where, Over time it does soak into the metal to help keep them in good shape. My old shot guns and rifle have both been under water a few times too. I use kroil for when a barrel needs hard cleaning then recoat with breakfree clp again. Just try to pick a good synthetic clp that several companies make and use it.
 
I can promise you the humidity where you live is nothing like
the humidity where I live on the Gulf Coast. That being said,
I use Kroil Weatherpruf. It will stop any metal from
rusting.
 
Something funny is going on.

has there been, by any chance Chorline bleach spilled or used liberally in the area? or Muriatic acid used to clean the floor? or some sort of strong drain cleaner?

All these chemicals (and many others) will make steel rust by encouraging Oxidation.

I live on a BOAT, on LI in Summers, FL in winter, and Tidewater in between, and I do not have much of a rust issue, using CLP.
 
http://www.midwayusa.com/find?userSearchQuery=dessicant

Dessicant: It's your friend.

If you don't want packages in your gun closet, get a little cordless job like this one: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/14...nt-dehumidifier-protects-100-cubic-feet-white

I live down near Houston, so I feel your pain. The guns in my house are in good shape, but I keep an old stack-on type gun cabinet in the garage with some older beaters. If I don't check those guns semi-regularly, I'll even get mold on the wood stocks.

Q
 
When I used to live in Houston, I used to have them dehumidifier (the one you buy at the local store) where it sits on a 2 part plastic 1 pint container and the gel is on top and it drains water from the air and collects at the bottom part of the container. Doesn't require electricity
 
Hi LJ,
Get a "Golden Rod" for your storage cabinet. You also might see if there is a gun smith that can counter bore your Turk. Easier than re-barreling BTW.
Best,
Rob
 
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I use a product developed by Boeing called Boeshield T-9. I use it on guns I figure are gonna sit for awhile. While I do not have bad humidity issues for my guns, I did use Boeshield on all rust-able parts of my brand new Lee turret loader about a year and half ago. It sits unused in my non-heated garage. You can still feel the protective coat on it and there is no rust at all after sitting in a damp garage for that long!

http://boeshield.com/

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&ke...hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&ref=pd_sl_9s9ikrzyi_e
 
Plus one to Jad0110

I live in Iowa and cannot figure out why you are having all of those rust problems unless something is going on with storage conditions. So, read again what Jad0110 is saying. I hope you are not storing them in an unheated/un-air conditioned barn or out-building or a musty basement with no dehumidifier...that sort of thing. I do not have nearly the problems you have had.
 
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