Western Australia Confiscates Bolt-Action Rifles

[WelshShooter]

Yeah, those pump and semi auto shotguns are not allowed to hold more than three rounds, including a round already in a chamber. This is why the majority of shotguns in UK are break action singles and doubles.

As for rifles in the UK, it doesn't sound that bad, but they have a full ban on semi-auto centerfire rifles and that has already happened in Australia and soon to be the focus here in the US.

Not strictly true. Only shotguns held on a Shotgun Certificate are limited to 2+1. If you put a shotgun on a Firearms Certificate as a Section 1 shotgun (which requires justification, for example, "Pro Shotgun Competition")there is no limitation to magazine size. This way, you could have a semi-automatic shotgun loaded with slugs; yet semi-auto centre-fires are illegal - go figure.

Source: I am a Britbong with 7 firearms.

 

[Dr. Sandman]

I'm glad that I don't live there...

 

[dogmush]

It would be nearly impossible for the US to do it alone, but if you have say, a coalition of willing nations to assist in the civil disarmament of the United States, it would be doable.

Foreign troops or police in the US, doing anything, much less firearms confiscation is the absolute fastest way I can think of to get a civil war. Even folks that don't really like guns aren't going to watch UN troops shooting people in the states.

 

[Sapper771]

Foreign troops or police in the US, doing anything, much less firearms confiscation is the absolute fastest way I can think of to get a civil war. Even folks that don't really like guns aren't going to watch UN troops shooting people in the states.

I agree. While there are several countries that would probably be willing to come help.....I dont think they will be willing to get stuck in a long, drawn out guerrilla war with US Citizens. It would have to be under the blue helmet guise of "Peace Missions". Some countries may come and use the invitation as a foot hold. I would hope the US Military would be on our side as well........but you never know these days.

These incidents of violence concern me. Every time they occur, we hear the same gun control war drum. Most of the media lines up to push the agenda. We have been winning, but its only a matter of time til they figure out a way around it and push some legislation through late at night. They have done it before (SAFE Act). I do not want my country to come to the same conditions as Australia or GB. As much as I hate to even say it.......a day may come where we will have to all stand together and fight, again.

 

[X-Rap]

They don't need Blue Helmets to do the job, the danger we face is in our own laws prohibiting the possession and ownership of illegal items and the penalties for violation.
I don't believe we'll ever face a "Red Dawn" scenario here but we may well face a situation in which we could loose everything we have if found with contraband items.
To me the thought of forfeiture laws taking my house or other property is more chilling than any Blue Helmets.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Interesting that Australia likes to attribute their reduction in gun violence to confiscation; even though nearby New Zealand also has no gun violence and allows modern self loading rifles, and even possession of machineguns.

 

[TruthTellers]

Foreign troops or police in the US, doing anything, much less firearms confiscation is the absolute fastest way I can think of to get a civil war. Even folks that don't really like guns aren't going to watch UN troops shooting people in the states.

They won't be watching them because they'll have already jumped on the buses to go to the refugee camps.

 

[Odd Job]

Yeah, those pump and semi auto shotguns are not allowed to hold more than three rounds, including a round already in a chamber. This is why the majority of shotguns in UK are break action singles and doubles.

You can have a semi-auto with more than 3 rounds but it must go on a firearms certificate (we do practical shotgun courses here). I have a semi auto 12g shotgun with two 10 round mags and two 5 round mags.

 

[76shuvlinoff]

Ya lost me at "shotgun certificate"

 

[F-111 John]

I wouldn't sing the praises of New Zealand's gun laws too loudly.

http://seattleglobalist.com/2012/08/06/getting-strapped-in-new-zealand-shooting/5740

 

[Midwest]

Foreign troops or police in the US, doing anything, much less firearms confiscation is the absolute fastest way I can think of to get a civil war. Even folks that don't really like guns aren't going to watch UN troops shooting people in the states.

Some have speculated that such a scenario could take place someday. And that is supposedly why there is a lot of 'preparedness' interest out there. I don't really believe something like that will happen here in the U.S., but I imagine it could be a probability.
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[mdauben]

It would be nearly impossible for the US to do it alone, but if you have say, a coalition of willing nations to assist in the civil disarmament of the United States, it would be doable.

I believe there would be at least some armed resistance if the US government attempted mass gun confiscation. If they brought in foreign troops, however, I can almost guarantee there would be a large scale uprising and blood in the streets.

I pray it never comes to that but with the inflammatory rhetoric and actions of the more radical liberal elite, I fear for the future.

 

[Prijador]

I wouldn't sing the praises of New Zealand's gun laws too loudly.

http://seattleglobalist.com/2012/08/06/getting-strapped-in-new-zealand-shooting/5740

But, in the short-attention span, sound-bite combat of the comment boards out there, bringing up New Zealand (having looser laws than Austrailia and a *lower* homicide rate) is still a useful counter to those anti's braying "but Austrailia did it and it worked!" (Since few will bother to actually look into the details)

Seriously, your average person now has the attention span of a meth-addicted squirrel.

 

[Lycidas Janwor]

It would be nearly impossible for the US to do it alone, but if you have say, a coalition of willing nations to assist in the civil disarmament of the United States, it would be doable.

And that would be an invasion. The military and law enforcement are sworn to protect the constitution and until the constitution is changed (or done away with which is not out of the realm of possibility after the BO fiasco) no foreign coalition will be able to set foot in this country without major problems.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

I wouldn't sing the praises of New Zealand's gun laws too loudly

I have no desire to emulate most of them; but compared to Australia, NZ's laws on firearms are relatively lax and yet the firearms death rate is very similar. That tends to suggest something other than access to firearms is at work.

 

[F-111 John]

Perhaps in theory New Zealand's laws are slightly more lax than Australia's. In theory you can also get a concealed carry license in New York City.

In practice, however, New Zealand is about the same as Australia in terms of handguns and semiautomatic rifles. In Australia, you can obtain a license for a semiautmatic rifle if you can prove that you are a professional hunter or pest exterminator, just like New Zealand.

And just like the United States, specific laws vary from state to state in Australia. This original article was about the state of Western Australia banning some bolt action rifles, which does not apply to New South Wales, Victoria, Queensland, etc.