Western Auto Revelation

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So I have a shot at buying a western Auto Revelation in 12 gauge. I have learned it is a clone of facsimile of a 500 made by mossberg from back when store had their own brands of firearms. Like a great value line. The price is 200 bucks and condition is good to excellent from the pictures I see. Is that a fair deal?
 
A buddy bought one a few months ago for about the same price. It was in good condition and we both thought it was worthwhile. If it's what you're looking for in a shotgun then I would say go for it.
 
200 is right at fair for me. It'd be a great combat-shotgun project or - as in my case - a good loaner. In its own right, you'd have a good, well bought primary hunter too.

In any case, if the condition is as good as you are led to believe and you do not place a premium on a Mossberg being marked straight-up as a Mossberg, you will not regret it.

Todd.
 
I,d say a very good deal. Especially these days. It,s a Mossberg 500 "house brand". I have many vintage Wards Westernfield .22s made by Mossberg.. House brands used to be good deals but the secrets out and prices have gone up. I,d grab it in the condition you describe.
 
Even though it is essentially a Mossberg 500 it isn't worth as much as a Mossberg and $200 is too much for a used hardware store shotgun. I would try and talk him down.
 
mac66 said:
Even though it is essentially a Mossberg 500 it isn't worth as much as a Mossberg and $200 is too much for a used hardware store shotgun. I would try and talk him down.
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Have you looked at gun prices, especially shotgun prices in the last year up to now? I have. It's a Mossberg 500 with a hardwood stock instead of walnut. Mossberg 500s are going for 4-500 bucks. Maverick 88s are going for 300 or more. Black plastic stocks. If you can find one in the rack.
 
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Good deal. Nice to have blueing and wood. Hope he appreciates it. Many younger shooters want the all black w/ synthetic stocks. They have their place but I love the old style. I do have some of the synthetics for HD.
 
It’ll be a great start. A good gift for a young man.

As i remember, mossberg 500’s started off with a single action bar on the slide as opposed to two (current manufacture). Lots of guns made that way. Not better or worse, just different.

i only bring it up in case replacement parts are sought or modifications are wanted. Needs to be kept in mind for compatibility purposes.
 
Good to Excellent, I would say $200 is a fair price. I would gladly Jump at it for that price. I had one years ago and would love to have it back.
 
From what I gather it is in every way, shape and form, a Mossberg 500, rebranded for WA. Not a clone, a Mossberg 500. Same parts, materials. I paid $150 for mine, first gun I ever owned. For $200 why not. The nice thing is you can configure it however you want or leave it as is and either way you will have a good general purpose shotgun around for not alot of money. I don't know how the older 500's stack up against the Mavericks that can be had for close to the same price, but sounds like a good deal regardless.

I've seen a couple Maverick 88's for sale at my LGS. One with a 20" or 22" bbl with iron sights and another 18" with standard bead. Both new, both $265. I wanted to jump on them but I kind of want a trap gun or a wingmaster if I'm going to buy another shotgun and I don't need 10 shotguns laying around .....
 
It came with dual action bars ..
In every way, it is a Mossberg 500. The only weird thing about it was the mag tube. It was an early style with a collar and spring at the front that the forend pushed against. If you ever encounter this, be aware it prevents removing the action bar/ forend assembly without removing the mag tube.
 
I have a similar house gun, but branded New Haven ( monkey wards?). Was left at shop as safety was messed up and owner didn't want it. Added a new safety, chopped barrel to 18.5" and added a heat sheild. Was the shop "insurance" gun for years and hung above inside doorway so could be grabbed if walking backward with hands up. Every bit as good as a new $500+ Mossberg today. Roars with Made in USSR shells. $200 is steal especially if "free range"
 
$200 for a Revelation pump gun is a decent price in the current market.




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From what I gather it is in every way, shape and form, a Mossberg 500, rebranded for WA. Not a clone, a Mossberg 500. Same parts, materials. I paid $150 for mine, first gun I ever owned. For $200 why not. The nice thing is you can configure it however you want or leave it as is and either way you will have a good general purpose shotgun around for not alot of money. I don't know how the older 500's stack up against the Mavericks that can be had for close to the same price, but sounds like a good deal regardless.

I've seen a couple Maverick 88's for sale at my LGS. One with a 20" or 22" bbl with iron sights and another 18" with standard bead. Both new, both $265. I wanted to jump on them but I kind of want a trap gun or a wingmaster if I'm going to buy another shotgun and I don't need 10 shotguns laying around .....
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amd6547 already pointed this out, but I'll include a bit more info on it:

There is at least one significant difference between the Mossberg 500AB and the Revelation R310AB. The Revelation has a small spring and stop on the magazine tube that prevents the action slide from sliding off like it does on the 500.

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I bought a R310AB from a co-worker and the wood plug he had for duck hunting bound up in the magazine spring so I needed to disassemble the gun to get the plug out.

The magazine tube has Loctite Black Max thread locker on the threads in the receiver. The force required to get it loose can be enough to warp/bend the aluminum receiver if care is not taken.

I removed my magazine tube by heating it (at the threading) with a propane torch until I saw a small wisp of smoke (~450°F) The thread locker may also visibly bubble where the tube mates to the receiver. I then used a strap wrench to loosen the tube while it was still hot (extra hands are helpful).

Once loose, the old thread locker can be cleaned off. Thread locker does not need to be reapplied for reassembly. The screw at the end of the magazine tube is sufficient to hold it securely.

Everything else appears to be identical to the 500.
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I had a hard time finding out how to accomplish this so I wrote a thread about it on another forum. It also has a link to the source of the info I used to learn about the spring and collar.
 
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Gotta say this thread about western auto brought back some powerful memories. I aways will remeber the strong smell of new tires and looking at the new guns like a kid in a candy store.
 
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Gotta say this thread about western auto brought back some powerful memories. I aways will remeber the strong smell of new tires and looking at the new guns like a kid in a candy store.
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I can still remember all the sights, sounds, and smells of the old time gun shops that use to be around! Display cases filled with handguns, the creaking wood floor as someone walked across it, and that combination aroma of pipe tobacco, musty wood stocks, and Hoppe's No.9!
 
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I can still remember all the sights, sounds, and smells of the old time gun shops that use to be around! Display cases filled with handguns, the creaking wood floor as someone walked across it, and that combination aroma of pipe tobacco, musty wood stocks, and Hoppe's No.9!
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That time has all but gone. Given the current occupation forces and inflation we may never see the like again.
 
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