What about a 25-06?

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I'm moving to South Carolina in a few months and I'm thinking about taking up deer hunting. I'd probably be using a stand, and while i know that a 12 gauge will probably get the job done, I'm thinking about a rifle, particularly one chambered in 25-06. Would this be a good choice? If so, whats a good brand/model to buy for a decent price (500ish range if possible). I've heard a lot of good things about savage, but don't know specifics. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, and my apologies if this would've been better suited for the Hunting forum.
 
I love the .25-06, one of my favs!! Every quality gun maker chambers it, so my advise would be to look at as many as possible, and pick what fits best.
 
Buzztail told you straight. The 25/06 is a gem.
It comes very close to duplicating the venerable .270 Winchester's ballistics with the heavier bullets - which is to say it is more than a person really needs for deer. But the 25/06 can also use lighter bullets (than the .270) with downright amazing accuracy for varmints and targets.

;)

P.S. With the 25/06 it often seems like the bullet arrives at its' destination at the very instant you pull the trigger. It can be spooky !
 
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have you thought of a lever 3030? Seems to me, when I was doing time in N. carolina for Everyones' uncle, that woods and hills were pretty dense, and off of a stand, you proly don't need more than 100 yds.
 
I'll second that for the .30-30. Besides, not every boondocks bait/tackle/gunshop is going to have .25-06 ammo, but any store worth it's salt will have the .30-30 ammo.
 
North Carolina is pretty thick growth. If you get into a place that you can have long sightlines, like along a railroad or powerline cut, then you might be able to use the range of the .25-06. Otherwise, you'd be just as well off with the .30-30.
 
In Texas, the .25-06 is quite popular in "sendero" rifles. A sendero is a long cut maybe 25-50 yards across, through the brush and there are always those power line right of ways. It shoots flat and on deer size game, will do anything a .270 will do.

I won a Remington BDL in .25-06 at a gun show, was the door prize. Now, I already have my grandpa's .257 Roberts which I load for, is super accurate, a short action gun, and shoots a 117 grain bullet to 3050 fps, about 100 fps faster for my favorite Sierra 100 grain game king (3/4moa with that load). That's pretty close to 25-06 factory ballistics. I had been wanting a stainless M7 in .308 or 7-08 and found an even swap at a local gun store for a M7 slightly used. I liked the gun, but just wanted the M7 worse and I am very happy with that gun.

My .257 has been killing deer for about 50 years now. It's a M722 Remington. I can recall only one deer going very far after the shot and the bullet, a Hornady 117 grain interlock, failed to expand. I recovered the deer, a big 5 year old 7 point, about 75 yards away, though, quite dead. Bullet went in between ribs behind the shoulder and didn't hit any bone on the way through. That's why I went with the 100 grain game king, slightly more accurate anyway. It never fails to expand. I shot one doe with it once that went into the on side shoulder. Deer was quartering toward me about 200 yards out and I was shooting off shooting stix. I hit it right where I wanted on the forward part of the shoulder, bounced off a shoulder bone and up to the spine where it shattered a vertebrae, deflected down to the off side rib, shattered that and failed to exit the skin. I found the bullet completely flat as a pancake under the off side skin. I prefer a bullet to exit, but it hit so much bone, I guess that's pretty decent performance and the deer dropped so fast I thought it had vaporized, LOL. When it hit that vertebrae, I heard a CRACK like a tree limb snapping. It was evil. LOL!

That old rifle was my grandpa's and I've killed most of the deer I ever shot with it, hunted with it almost exclusively right up to 10 years ago except for a few I shot with the 7 mag and pistols/revolvers and a few other rifles. 10 years ago is when I got that .308 and I've been in love with that thing for a while now. But, you can't tell me the .257 or the near identical (slightly superior) ballistics of a .25-06 isn't effective. I know guys that have killed elk with the .25-06 and heavy 117 grain controlled expansion bullets. I'd have no problem using that 117 grain hornady on elk out to a couple hundred yards. Past that it drops below 1500 ft lbs and gets a little iffy on elk, but it'll kill deer about as far as you'll wanna shoot at 'em with any belted magnum and damage a lot less meat in the process. Yes, a most excellent caliber choice for whitetail deer.
 
i have a 25-06 and it does pretty good for deer. i think there are better chamberings, but i think you can do a lot worse.

as for it being almost too much for deer, i disagree whole heartedly. it is my opinion that the 257 roberts should be minimum legal for deer, which would make the 25-06 just a hair better.

25-06 has the ability to punch through a deer at about any angle or range the shooter can handle. it shoots pretty flat, and they are generally pretty accurate.
 
The .25-06 really is THE deer cartridge. It got enough power to drop any deer well beyond the range at which most hunters can score a hit, yet such mild recoil that the most petite women or adolescent chidren can shoot it comfortably.

Now, I'm not a small guy and can handle recoil quite well, but I love shooting my .25-06 and use it for everything from varmints to elk. The lack of recoil means that one can focus completely on breathing and trigger control, which translates into greater accuracy. With the handloads I've worked up and the accuracy I can wring out of my 700BDL with it's Leupold VX-III 4.5-14x, I would confidently take a shot at 500+ yards on a deer if I could get in a very steady position and use the Harris bi-pod (like prone).

I have two pet loads. The first is a 117 grain Sierra Gameking at 3220 FPS. A more recent favorite is a 100 grain Barnes triple-shok X boat tail at 3580 FPS. Both are consistently sub minute from the bench.
 
The one rifle I never should have sold...Weatherby VGX in .25-06! :(
 
N. Carolina can be thick, but he said S. Carolina, and it can be thick also, however I know in some areas (large), SC and Ga. can have some longggg shots. Especially if you go to the power lines, some areas you can see deer farther than a man can reasonably shoot.Now on the other hand you cannot talk me out of my 30-30 either, even more so since I started hand loading.
 
So, just because you probably won't get a shot over a hundred yards, you can't use a .25-06? I don't buy the brush rifle concept. I've shot deer from 20 feet to 300 yards with the .257 Roberts. They all fell dead, just as dead as a .30-30 at 20 feet or a .300 mag at 300 yards. Prepare for the long shots and take the close ones.
 
Mines a Remy 700 in 2506. Got it finetune to shoot less than a dime at 100 yds , 100 gr Nosler BT. I vouch for its inherent accuracy too. Perfect deer gun .
 
"I don't buy the brush rifle concept."

Count me in, McGunner !

The only "brush gun" that really is a brush gun is one that leaves both hands free for dealing with brush.

APPLAUSE APPLAUSE for the Ruger Super Blackhawk revolver (et al) !!! :)
 
I recently got a Savage110Tactical in 25-06, mainly because it was such a good deal, and secondly because I wanted a different chambering. Once I got it to the range, I realized what a jewel I had gotten. She is easily a sub 1/2 MOA gun when I do what I'm supposed to do, absolute minimal recoil, and shoots like a laser beam. It went from being a rifle I got a really good deal on to being my #1 rifle. I am deer hunting with it this year (Hornady 117SPBT's over IMR 3031, also my 1/2MOA load!), and plan to get some lighter bullets for my Papaw's coyotes! I whole heartedly recommend the 25-06.
 
So what would be a good rifle to get it chambered in? I'd like to pay around 500 or so (less is always better of course) for it, and i think that puts me in the range for savages, but i'm not sure if any in particular are better or worse. A weatherby vanguard sounds great to, but i have no idea how much they cost. Again, thanks for the advice and please keep it coming.
 
You'll have to be more specific...

There are places in SC where you'll have to shoot 500 yards to kill one (look up Jarrett Rifles), and there are places where you can't shoot more than 100.

My father-in-law hunts with a Remington 700 in .25-06 and it is a pretty neat little cartridge. A 117-grain Hornady SST is THE medicine for any deer that grow here, and it shoots like a laser beam, but it is LOUD. And it does kick just a bit, but not compared to a short 30-30. It is overbore and only really comes into its own in a fairly long barrel, which doesn't fit in a stand.

My next rifle will likely be a TC Encore in 6.5x55 (short, short, short). I hate the Rugers, Remingtons cost too much, bolts are too long in general, and I shoot left-handed. YMMV

Make sure you get a scope that turns down to at most 4X. The 75-yard shot from a cramped stand at dusk is pretty tough at 12X. Welcome to the Palmetto State.
 
I've had lots of luck with my .25-06 on deer. Furthest I've taken was 230 yards with my H&R Ultra Hunter. Great shooting single shot for a cheap price. Ammo can be kinda hard to find and pricey, but it's a nice cartridge.

If you reload, I'd definitely say go for it.
 
I like Remington, Savage, Browning's A bolt, Winchester, Weatherby. I have no experience with imports. People talk up the CZs. Howa has a following. To date, though, all I've owned is Remington and Savage and I'm perfectly happy with those.

The new ultra-cheap Remington 710 seems to have a horrid reputation and just going on that fact, I'd avoid that one. The 700s are great guns, though. That BDL I had very briefly was gorgeous, but not the kind of gun I'd like to put to rugged use. Wood was just too pretty to scratch.
 
I have a Savage 111f in 25-06 and I love it. With hand loads it shoots 1/2 moa right out of the box. If you do buy one you will need to reload in my opinion. Factory stuff is $20 a box and I have had serious consistency problems with Win and Fed ammo and the Fed showed signs of gas leakage around the primer. I load mine up with 75gr ballistic tips over 56.0gr of H4350. I do not have a chrono but accourding to the book it is zipping out there at 3700fps. I did take a dear this year with it, I shot her at about 50yrds right thru the heart and it did not exit the other side. The heart was destroyed. She only jumped a bit walked 20 feet and fell over dead.
 
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