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Oh damn, I must go against the grain. I think you should just wait the four months out. You basically "married" him for a year and now you have to live with it. Did you discuss and agree to a gun upfront? No, so it's too late now. If he genuinely has a fear or distaste for the gun and it wasn't cleared in advance then I think you are changing the terms of the implied agreement in the middle. There is probably "something" he could bring in that would make you say "hold on" too, look at it that way.

I appreciate the suggestions that you take him shooting but I actually think you stand more chance of scoring a point for guns by showing him you can agree to disagree. At the end of four months you will have learned something important - don't get too close to anyone without knowing first where they stand on things that are important to you.
 
True, but sadly not always reality. He lives there, too. If he really is a barking loon, he could call the police and demand they take the gun away - in some places they might tell him to pound sand, but in some places they WILL do this regardless of the owner's rights.
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Where? As long as he is legally possessing the gun, and has committed no offense at all, when and where could they take his property out of his house illegally?
 
You're young. Affiliations and beliefs seem so permanent when you're young, but your roommate is demonstrating prejudice and intolerance, believing his passions should be shared by everyone. Right now his focus is politics and guns. Who knows what he'll choose to want to control in the future.

I suspect you are the better example of tolerance for his beliefs. He should follow your example and give you the same respect of your beliefs.

Have him read my signature line.
 
I think if this roommate wanted to call the police and say there was a gun in the apartment and he was in some non-specific fear they probably couldn't take the gun but would make things hard for the OP, that's why I say wait the four months out and learn a lesson.
 
Put up a flyer at your local range looking for a roommate.When you find one,invite him over for a gun-cleaning party while the current roomie is out.Make sure you'll be sitting in a room full of guns when the roomie returns.Then introduce him,and tell him you already found a replacement since you knew he'll be moving now that your guns are here...
 
Just a guess, roomie isn't paying his own way through college is he?

BCCl,

Where? As long as he is legally possessing the gun, and has committed no offense at all, when and where could they take his property out of his house illegally?
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This is accomplished by invoking one of the myriad, ahem, "Domestic Violence" statutes and regulations. DV laws and regulations cast a much wider net than most folks think. :what: Roommates are on that list.

All roomie has to say is that he is in fear (Not that he is a whining sniveling . . . or anything) for his life and your friendly neighborhood cop can remove the firearm. Not to mention the possible issuance of a DV restraining order. We know where that can lead. . . :barf:
 
If both are on the lease for the next 4 months, you let him know that you are moving the gun in, and if he chooses to move on he must find you a rent paying roomate that agrees to take his place before he moves on to his RED utopian future commune.
If he does not he is legally bound by the lease to pay the rent in his half for the remainder of the time regardless if he lives there or not. If you are on the lease and he is not, you explain to him the gun is moving in, and ask nicely what he plans on doing. If he acts like a 2 year old on a sugar high not wanting to take a nap, you call the police and have him move under police supervision (yes they will do so, the person removes what they can while the cop has time to watch, then the person is not permitted on the property or near it unless a cop is present so they can remove the rest of their stuff.
If he does not like guns then he sure wont want the cops showing up, and displaying theirs freely.
 
OP, Don't listen to those who want you to start a fight over this, you will lose. Your idiot roommate can go to the police and he can probably go to the landlord who will probably take his side. Better to not let it come to that. You did the crime (moving in with him) now do the time (four months).
 
"He says that the idea of property is relative, and that no one really owns anything--that it is a societal taught invention, therefore no one has the right to own anything and things such as guns should be able to be taken away since we don't have a right to own anything."
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Ask him if you can take his car?
Or maybe ask why it is that people flee from Cuba and used to flee from Soviet Russia o the U.S.?
 
"He says that the idea of property is relative, and that no one really owns anything--that it is a societal taught invention, therefore no one has the right to own anything"

sounds like to me that he just gave you permission to use all of his stuff. :evil:

Careful though cause the road goes both ways.
 
All roomie has to say is that he is in fear (Not that he is a whining sniveling . . . or anything) for his life and your friendly neighborhood cop can remove the firearm. Not to mention the possible issuance of a DV restraining order. We know where that can lead.
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Yeah, but you now adding more into it, your changing the situation I was discussing "the roommate just doesn't want the gun there", to "he threatened me with it".

The question was, police taking it "just because" the roommate doesn't want it there. Under those circumstances, a legally owned firearm that has not been used in the wrong manner, they cannot just take it.
 
the point he was making is all the roommate would have to do once the gun was there is lie to police and say that he was threatening him to have the gun removed. People never lie though....
 
woof said:
If he genuinely has a fear or distaste for the gun and it wasn't cleared in advance then I think you are changing the terms of the implied agreement in the middle. There is probably "something" he could bring in that would make you say "hold on" too, look at it that way.
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I disagree. If it's not in the lease or against the law I don't see why he should give in. It's the same as if his room mate decided to get an x-box and him saying "well...no, no, no...we haven't cleared this before moving in". Him having a firearm in no way affects the room mate as long as it's secured properly .
 
I would openly carry while in the house at all times, including with my belt over my robe on Sunday mornings.

The decision then lies with him.

Of course I might not be the most PC person in the world. I gave my daughter a .357 for her 15th birthday.
 
I would be careful around him. He sounds just crazy enough that he would call police and claim you were threatening a campus shooting. And I would kick him out as soon as possible.
 
Don't ever give in to this guy. If its one thing I've got no patience for anymore its ****** roommates. Does this guy use drugs? If he does tell him this "hi pot my name is kettle nice to meet you"
 
SoCalShooter: "I would try and educate him or at least take him shooting."

I wouldn't teach a communist to shoot. The last time an American communist became a gun nut, we lost a President. Not a good President, I know, but still a President, and the successor turned out far worse.
 
Make the split in 4 months...he sounds like an asshat.
Let me guess:Rage Against The Machine T shirts and posters,Che Guevara memorabillia;probably has a "celebrate diversity" sticke ron his car(THERE is a doubl estandard if I ever saw one!)...Lucky for me,I never lived with anyone where could not disagree in a civilized fashion.If he is a friend,he would respect YOUR beliefs-instead he DEMANDS you internalize his.
4 months+find another roomie.In the meantime;be discreet.
 
Find a new roommate. The night before the lease expires, make sure your current roommate is aware you have a firearm in the apartment.
 
"He says that the idea of property is relative, and that no one really owns anything--that it is a societal taught invention, therefore no one has the right to own anything and things such as guns should be able to be taken away since we don't have a right to own anything. He's bloody crazy to say the least."

Take this guy's computer, his girlfriend, and anything else this a-hole owns. Hit him in the face a couple of times. And tell him the only way he will be able to own anything is if he carries a weapon and defends his world.
 
Just casually be sitting at the table cleaning it one morning. At this point you can either watch him pee in his favorite Mao Zedong shorts, or you tell him "it's just the barrel, it couldn't kill if I tried." Then watch him hastily leave and not come back for a few nights. But he will come back, and when he does, answer the door gun in hand. Then he will just come in and get new clothes and go back to the couch he'd been sleeping on. Should work.
 
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