What C&R pistols were made with stocks?

[mr.trooper]

I know C96 Mausers, Some models of Luger, and some models of Browning
Hi-Power.

What / were any other common C&R eligible pistols made with original factory but stocks?

I realize there were some other antique pistols like the Fiala that came in kits with stocks. I'm not really interested in those because too few of them were actually made. Were there any other relatively common pistols made with original stocks that I'm forgetting about?

ALSO - could someone post me a link to the ACTUAL ATF documents that except historical pistols from the NFA? I have done several searches, but all I can find is a short, generalized, and highly wishy-washy paragraph on the ATF questions page. I would like to see that actual list of exempted arms if such a thing actually exists.

 

[Swing]

Some M1903s had stocks:


Ditto Nambu:

There are others.

Concerning the second question, this publication might help.

 

[Ash]

The Finnish L-35 Lahti had the same kind of stock. The Webly Mk VI had a stock that replaced the rear grip panel.

 

[Jim K]

Those shoulder stocked handguns (and other firearms) that have been removed from the purview of the NFA and determined to be Curios and Relics are listed here. The list is not limited to firearms previously considered to the Curios and Relics. (See Section III or IIIA for antiques.)

https://www.atf.gov/files/publicati.../p-5300-11-firearms-curios-or-relics-list.pdf

Note that for machineguns, even a C&R determination does not remove the NFA requirements for a transfer tax and transfer approval; what it does do is allow transfer to a C&R (Type 03) FFL holder directly without going through a Class 3 dealer.

Jim

 

[Jim Watson]

Somebody got Elmer Keith's stocked 1905 Colt .45 in one of the recent auctions.

 

[19-3Ben]

Some M1903s had stocks:

Wow. I never heard of that! Ya' learn something new every day.
I can't possibly imagine a use for that at all. A .32acp doesn't really have enough power to make use of the extra stability and resulting accuracy you'd get from a stock. Does anyone know why they even bothered?

 

[Jim Watson]

Because it is not a .32.
It is an FN 1903 in 9mm Browning Long, probably for Sweden.
This is not a wimpy little gun, it is a serious service weapon, not far off a 9mm P, even though blowback. The old spec was a 110 gr bullet at 1100 fps. Privi catalogs a 108 at 1147.
Most of the ones sold here were ruined by having the chamber bushed to .380.

 

[19-3Ben]

Ahhhh.... That's what I get for posting when not paying full attention. I was thinking Colt 1903, which is where I got the idea of .32acp.

9mm Long is a very very different animal.

 

[Jim K]

Actually, the FN 1903 was the immediate predecessor of the Colt 1903. Browning designed the FN pistol because FN needed something in a hurry to compete with the Luger. Browning then took the gun to Colt. Colt felt that its .38 ACP pistols were adequate, but they wanted a pocket model auto, so Browning scaled down the FN pistol and the result was the Colt 1903. The FN 1903 had some success, but is now mostly forgotten in the U.S., while its Colt offspring was very successful and is still regarded as one of the finest pocket autos ever made.

More info can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Model_1903

Jim

 

[WJThompson]

Don't forget the old single action revolvers like the colt buntline special and even early percussion cap pistols of many manufacturers made accessory shoulder stocks. Come to think of it even single shot flintlocks sometimes had a accessory stock.

 

[il.bill]

I just remembered that Smith & Wesson used to claim my C&R eligible Model 15 originally shipped from the factory with wood "stocks".

 

[Jim Watson]

As Jeff Cooper said, the wooden or plastic parts of the handle of the gun are its stocks.
Grip is how hard you grasp the stocks.