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hello everybody im looking to buy a handgun very soon but i was just wondering what caliber and make does everybody prefer( i dont whant to hear that colt is the best because you love it I want to hear whats good about it) i want an autoloader for sure not a revolver (not yet at least) but i was thinking about mostly cost,accuracy, and a good make not sloppy and junk, but im not a big cheepo so not like 200 bucks thats gonna fall apart. i know enough about guns but not about bullet sizing with relation to accuracy so if i could get some help that would be cool...o yes and also i need it to be an ambi for leftys to

thanks all thanks alot
 
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I carry .45acp in both a 1911 Rock Island and in a S&W Model 22 revolver.
I have a LOT of trust in the round and the pistols.
Extremely reliable, I have removed the lock in the S&W just to be safe.
I am not a great pistol shot, but I am accurate enough with them to put all of my shots in a softball sized area at normal defense ranges... 15 yards or so.
I also carry a Taurus model 445 5 shot snubby in .44 special.
I dont like small bullets, The bigger holes I make, the faster air gets in and blood gets out of the bad guy. I had a S&W Model 21 .44 special but I am in process of trading it on a 2.5" .44 magnum snubby.
It will normally hold .44 specials.


Jim
 
If you want the best bang for you buck, I would suggest a 9mm. The ammo is "cheap" I have a SIGMA, there are alot of people out there who bash it, because they copied Glock, but it is a great gun. I got mine for under $320. compared to a Glock at $500. I have shot both. The trigger pull is tough but you get used to it. It loosees up after a few hundred rounds.
 
Personally, my favoite are S&W revolvers. I also prefer full-lug barrels. For instance, models 629, 586, and 686. I also prefer the rounds that they fire, as they will hit something hard and deep.
 
hello everybody im looking to buy a handgun very soon but i was just wondering what caliber and make does everybody prefer( i dont whant to hear that colt is the best because you love it I want to hear whats good about it)

I think you'll soon find that everybody prefers something different. A poll like this isn't going to be much, if any help at all.

Not knowing anything at all about your needs I'll suggest a quality .22lr pistol from Ruger, Smith, or Browning. (Mine's a Ruger 22/45 and I'm quite pleased with it.)

i dont whant to hear that colt is the best because you love it I want to hear whats good about it

The 22/45 is good because it's very reliable and more accurate than I am. The .22lr round is plentiful and less expensive than even my reloads in any centerfire cartridge.

i want an autoloader for sure not a revolver (not yet at least) but i was thinking about mostly cost,accuracy, and a good make not sloppy and junk,

Any quality .22lr handgun will fit the bill nicely for cost and accuracy. And as far as I know the ones I mentioned are far from sloppy or "junk".
 
I'm going to give you very good advice and by the time this thread goes to 4+ pages you will realize I'm right!!

The best gun is the gun that feels good in your hand, you can shoot well and is completely reliable. Now that may sound over simple but you should do the research and find just that gun. When you do, that will be the best gun for YOU.

Good luck finding something you like. Half the fun is in the looking. :D
 
+1 what he^^^ said. Pretty much any pistol from a major manufacturer will work well. The problem is finding one you like the best.

What is it going to be used for?

If its a target/range gun, I would suggest a nice .22lr. A good .22lr from Ruger, Browning, S&W, or Beretta will be accurate, fairly inexpensive (about 300 or less) and the ammo is cheap cheap cheap!!!

If it is for self/home defense I would suggest one in at least 9mm. Find one from a major, well respected manufacturer that you like and train with it. Also get a full size gun, not a sub compact. They are a lot easier to shoot and have less recoil generally.

As far as which caliber, thats up to you. You would pretty much have to be an Olympic skill shooter to really notice a difference in accuracy between the big three ( 9mm .40SW and .45ACP. ) during normal shooting.
 
+1 Sport45.

If you don't know guns, the Ruger 22/45 is a great place to start. A Cheap round to shoot, mild to keep you from flinching like most centerfire rounds will do unless you are experienced. The 22/45 variant has a grip angle like a 1911 .45 acp (hence the "/45" in the name), so it will train you to grip and handle full size autos.

Tip: don't be egotistical and want a 9mm, .45, etc. as a first gun/handgun. Get a .22, learn to shoot, then step up to the big stuff that is harder to handle. Then you won't have to "unlearn" bad habits you developed from going too far too fast.

The first rule of gun ownership is: Everyone's first gun should be a .22.

And that's assuming you spent a few years with air rifles to get prepared!
 
Cz-85b

I don't see why the first two responses felt the need to tell you about snubbies when you specifically said you want an auto-loader and you want something accurate.

If you're concerned about accuracy, you want something with a decent sized barrel.

I'd say that everybody should have some kind of .22 for plinking, especially if you don't have too much practice with guns. Since you want an auto-loader, though, that makes the Ruger Mark II/III the way to go. Those are incredibly accurate. The 22/45 is the version of the Mark III that has a plastic handle with a different grip angle. In my hand, it just feels horrible -- like a skinny plastic box with sharp edges. Some people prefer it, though.

Of course, if you don't want a wimpy little .22, I'd say 9mm and .38 Special are your next choice to be able to shoot a lot. Again, since you don't want a revolver, that means 9mm. There's a ton of different 9mm loads out there, from dirt cheap Wal-Mart ammo to DPX that shoots through car doors to HST that expands to 0.89" and can still make it through a windshield. Or go .45 and reload your own ammo -- it's kinda fun.

The thing is, most people have very strong opinions about what caliber they like, and the fact is that handgun calibers are more similar than they are different. A .45 is going to put a little bigger hole in things. A 9mm is going to be a little faster and cheaper. The faster rounds are generally going to be more accurate, but that also has plenty to do with the gun.

On top of that, you have to decide what general gun design you like. You've got light plastic Glocks, and you've got heavy steel 1911s. They're totally different guns. You really need to try them out and see what you like. If you just go starting up a thread and saying, "Hey, should I get a 1911 or a Glock?" you're just going to be inviting lunatics to rant about their favorite gun.

You probably want to stick to 9mm or .45, though. I really wouldn't recommend .40 as your only gun. That's like having to shoot expensive snappy 9mm +P+ ammo every time.

Glock, Springfield XD, and Smith M&P are all good polymer striker-fired guns available in both 9mm and .45. Which one you want mostly depends on which one you like the feel of and the number of safeties you want. The Glock 34 has a 5.3" barrel and is really accurate. You said you wanted ambidextrous, though. The M&P has an ambidextrous slide release, and the mag release can easily be switched from one side to the other. The Springfield XD has ambidextrous mag releases, and it's available in a 5" tactical model that's going to be more accurate. The Glock and XD have different grip angles. The M&P comes with 3 different backstraps so you can tailor it to your hand.

If you want a steel gun with a hammer, you're talking about a 1911 (Rock Island is the cheapest decent thing you'll find), or probably a CZ-75 9mm. The CZ-75 is a really accurate/dependable gun. The CZ-85 is the ambidextrous version of the CZ-75. Sig makes great guns, but they're pretty expensive. There are also a lot of good really expensive 1911s.

I assume many concerns about having a lighter more concealable gun don't apply to you since you live in Ontario and can't carry.

So for you, my main recommendation would be a CZ-85B. They seem to be about $550 new and $450 used in good shape. If you prefer a lighter gun without a hammer, I'd go with an XD 5" tactical. They're both ambidextrous, They're both accurate. They both have 5" barrels. They both have 15 round mags.

If you'd like a .22, I'd get a Ruger Mark II or Mark III. The Mark II has the mag release in the butt, so that's basically ambidextrous. Many people just consider the .22 a totally different class of firearm, though, and maybe you're not at all interested in that. If you're OK with a .22, great! As far as using it for defense, it's seriously just about as good as a .380 if you load it with Stingers or Interceptors.

If you want a .45 I'd look into the reasonably priced ambidextrous Taurus 1911 or the XD .45.
 
Greetings nate18!

You may as well ask "what are the best pair of shoes?"

Different answers for different people. What do you want it for?

In over 20 years of pistol shooting, I have gone from 9mm to .40SW to .357Sig before settling on .45ACP (not counting .38spl, .357 magnum and all those .22lrs I've fired). That's a lot of time and money spent. I have a feeling that you will find the same thing out for yourself after a few years.

For now, buy a gun that fits your hands and that you can afford to shoot. That's about it.
 
nate18,

More information on to what purpose you plan to use your weapon is in order.

plinking, punching paper, shooting varmints, self-defense, defense against bears, let's narrow the field.
 
nate18,

More information on to what purpose you plan to use your weapon is in order.

plinking, punching paper, shooting varmints, self-defense, defense against bears, let's narrow the field.

Exactly. And if it is going to be for carry, how might you be interested in carrying it (pocket carry, inside the pants/waistband, on the belt, ankle, shoulder holster ... etc). Also, if you could firm up the price range you'd be willing to pay (a floor and a ceiling), that would help too.

You stated auto, so that helps narrow things down quite a bit.

Also, your prior experience with firearms would be helpful too.

It's kinda like shopping for a car. What kind of gas mileage do you want? Seating, towing, hauling capacity. 0-60 or 1/4 mi time. Lateral acceleration ...
 
My experience

Since you prefer autoloaders, I would recommend you be willing to spend at least $300.00 for a decent quality gun. The local pistol discounter in my area will sell either a S&W Sigma or RUGER P-95 in 9m.m.

I recommend the 9m.m. versions as they have less recoil and the ammo is really inexpensive (WALMART). Both are reliable and shoot well enough.

For myself, I would spend a little more and buy the STOEGER Cougar 8000. This is the BERETTA 8000 model, but now made in TURKEY. It is not as finely finished as the BERETTA, but works well. I have seen this gun for as low as $329.00 on sale. Usually you can get it for $349.00.

If you want a .22lr pistol, I would check the WALTHER P-22. They are compact, well made and a lot of fun to shoot. Plus, you can change the size of the grip for use by woman or children. I bought mine for $229.00, brand new at a gun show.

Good luck,

Jim
 
You can get 9mm anywhere for a reasonable price and there are good 9mm pistols out there for around $300 new.
 
I am a fan of the CZ-75 line, and if you need ambidextrous controls look for a CZ-85 COMBAT (ambidextrous safety AND slide release) or a CZ-75B Stainless or SP-01 (ambidextrous safety, and a reversible magazine release).

Enjoy!
 
I had the same question as you so I called my uncle in law who got back from Iraq last year. He told me to either get a .45 acp or go home. 9mm's over penetrate and it may take a few shots to take someone down, 40 s&w is a good cartridge but is too snappy, 45 acp is a proven man stopper and its what he carries. He carries a Springfield XD 45 so thats is what I bought for $519. He also suggested the baby eagle .45 ($549) and for something cheaper but very reliable the bersa Thunder 45 ($349). Most people are going to tell you to go to the range and rent a 9, 40 and a 45 and shoot them. Well thats a good idea if you dont mind spending $60-$75 on renting. I would take that money and buy ammo for your 45. Just stay away from Taurus's, don't let the lifetime warranty fool you. Glocks are also good guns but I've heard of too many accidental shootings but they are around $500 and very reliable. Rugers are good guns for the price but feel cheap and are a bit bulky.

check this link out

http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.php
 
Location: ontario canada

You laws will rule out a lot of guns So better start with what they approve I belive you have a barrel lenght requirement to start with on hand guns
 
Q- Quality and Quantity

Go for a quality 9mm that fits your hand and points well, price should not be the determining issue, except with ammunition and 9mm is the best bang for the money. Many 9mm hand guns have capacities of 15 -17 rounds, a lot of fun and have a proven defense record with the high end ammo. A good semi auto handgun will provide much enjoyment and few if any problems, go for a full size vs compact for accuracy and reduced recoil.
A short list of pistols to consider:
Sig P226 - as good as it gets, functions as flawless as a semi auto can, very accurate. $700+.
Walther P99 polymer frame, custom fit grip inserts included, very accurate, nice feel, and functions very well. $499+.
Springfield XD polymer frame really points and shoots great, reliable $499+.
Berretta 92f, 5 inch barrel, high capacity, reliable, $550+, Or Taurus clone.
Glock 17, Glock 34, polymer frame, light weight, very accurate, reliable, may have grip angle issue, may not point as well as others. $599+.
Smith&Wesson M&P, polymer frame lower cost but has good reliability, accuracy, nice pistol, $450+.
H&K USP, high end semi auto handgun, great on all points, but will dent the pocketbook, $800+.
There are many others to consider, but if I was buying my first semi-auto pistol I would consider limiting my choices to the P99, XD, M&P. IMO
PS: the Walther P99 has the best magazine release for lefties I have ever encountered.
 
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I go with a Glock 27 in .40 S&W, because i ergonomically feel a perfect fit with the glocks and wanted to go for something with a serious proven reliability record. I chose the .40 for its balance of stopping power, accuarcy, and availability. 1911s are very awesome in ergonomics and reliability records. Kahrs are good too! It's really up to you though, especially if your carrying for protection. Go out and try various makes and calibers to see what works the best for you!
 
You live in Canada, where it's difficult enough obtaining a handgun, let alone the ammo for it.
Nor are you likely to ever get a license to carry it concealed legally.
You don't even mention having it for self defense.
Yet, so many responses in here seem to gravitate toward self-defense handguns.
You say you're new to handguns.
To my notion the above means a .22 is best for you.
Ammo is cheap. Recoil is nearly nonexistent so you won't develop a flinch. Muzzle blast can be a little sharp, especially in a range, but you should always wear hearing protection to negate that.
In Canada, you can buy .22 rimfire cartridges without a sidewards glance.
Try to buy 9mm, .38, .40 or .45 ammo and you'll be in for a bunch of onerous questions and paperwork.
A good target .22 will help you develop good shooting habits inexpensively.
Whether you choose a semi-auto or revolver is up to you.
I prefer a double-action revolver myself, especially as a first gun for newcomers.
You swing the cylinder out to the side and you can SEE whether it's loaded or unloaded. With a semi-auto, there is always a chance you'll forget there's a round in the chamber. This is especially true of new shooters.
Reliability is unquestionable, provided it's a quality gun.
You can stoke a revolver with .22 Shorts or even CB caps, for absolutely no recoil.
There is no magazine to lose or become damaged and cause feeding problems.
Some .22 magazines can be real thumb-busters to load. Loading a revolver's cylinder is easy.
If you decide on a double-action revolver, you can do no better than the Smith & Wesson 617, which is a .22 built on a .38 Special frame and constructed of stainless steel.
This model has adjustable sights, which you'll definitely want. Though it all looks like, .22 ammunition can strike to different points on the target.
I have an S&W Model 17, which is the blued version of the same gun, and it's wonderful. Very accurate, smooth action and trigger and quality workmanship throughout.
I'ts a target pistol, to be sure, but to develop good shooting skills you want a gun that is consistently accurate.
The Ruger SP101 with adjustable sights in .22 caliber is also good.
Charter Arms makes shorter-barreled .22 revolvers that, from what I hear, are good but not quite the quality of the Smith & Wesson.
Rossi makes very good guns; a variety are in .22 caliber.

As a first handgun, it's difficult to beat a .22, in revolver or semi-auto.

If you prefer semi-auto, then go with Ruger or Browning. Both are noted for excellent accuracy and workmanship.

After you've become accustomed to shooting a handgun, you can move up to a 9mm, .38, .40, 44 or .45 -- but you'll be shocked at the cost of ammunition.
Here in the States, a box of 50 regular cartridges will set you back $15 to $30, even more if you buy specialized ammo like hollowpoints.

And you'll never outgrow that .22 revolver. You'll still use it for practice, to keep your hand and eye accustomed to shooting.

I own three .38 Specials, one. 380 Auto, two 9mms, one .357 Magnum, three .45s, one .44 Magnum, one .44 Special, one .32 revolver and four .22 pistols.
And yet, my most-used guns are the .22s because they're inexpensive to shoot and excellent for practice.
 
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