Why are we so slow to adapt and change "good enough" to better from an S&T standpoint? In spite of available technology, and perhaps 100 years of magazine fed experience with long-guns and SMGs widely available... and experience of being out-gunned by bootleggers with BARs and Thompsons and 1911s... Why, even into the 1980s, were American law enforcement was so slow to adopt higher capacity pistols, and for American companies like S&W to built them given the above, and for law enforcement to carry long guns in their vehicles? Look what designs were either available or easy for a company to copy... going back to WWII some 4 decades prior, there were several excellent SMGs. The Browning HP with a 15 round magazine was around in the decades prior to the 1980s, and the SKS and AK47 were born. We had a few of our own, including the M1 Garand, M14, and M1 Carbine. The M16 and CAR15 were around for a decade or two prior to the 1980s and sold to civilians. The cold war was in full effect, and terrorism was in bloom. Drug crimes were booming in the 1970s and 1980s. Violence was quite high, and gun violence was a national problem. Yet our LEOs carried 6 shot revolvers by-and-large. Some had shotguns in their cars. I don't believe that carbines or rifles were common. Perhaps the answer is that hindsight is 20/20 and military/police are just very slow to make changes when there's no immediate need. Heck, it took a massive bank robbery in LA to get police to adopt AR15 carbines, and a huge shootout in Florida to get the police to adopt better firearms and ammunition. Seems so obvious that police were on a collision course with being out-gunned, why didn't they do more to pre-empt it. I'll start a new thread on this point. That's another discussion perhaps. Now most of us aren't LEOs. But what can you take away from this as the world dynamically changes. Or does it dynamically change for you, or perhaps it does and you're simply oblivious to it?