What color game light for coons?

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Can any one give me a recommendation for what color light to use for coons? I have cyclops unit that has both red and green leds. I will need to be shooting from about 90yrd with the light. I have a family of coons coming into my feeder I would like to eliminate since they have wiped out all my peaches this year.:mad:
 
I use a plain white ozark trail from Walmart. Doesn't seem to spook'em too much from 100 yds or so. I'd like to try a red light but it's hard to find an el cheapo that will work at that distance. Post with what you come up with and results. I'd be interested.
 
Once or twice a year, I have to set out traps for them around my feeders as so many of them get to coming in there. I've tried shooting them, but have done a lot better using Dukes dog free traps. They are easy and effective. You come to check your feeder, and the coons will be standing there with their foot stuck in the trap waiting for you.
 
I feel your pain.

I've killed 3 raccoons at my place this year. One was a mama and young one at one of my peach trees. Mama absorbed lead from a 22-250 while starting up the tree. The young one went up the tree and I dispatched it with a 380 Auto (I didn't want a 22-250 bullet going into the next county).

First of all, it's a myth that the color of light matters. The human eye has both rods and cones. Cones work for color vision and rods work for low light conditions. The reason red light it good to minimize loss of dark adaptation is because a low level of red light permits one to see while minimizing the effet on the rods. Raccoons see in black and white. They are not going to know if the light is blue, red or white; they'll only note the intensity of the light source.

What I would do in your case is to get a photocell powered landscape light and position it at your feeder. The raccoons will get used to it and it will give you enough illumination to shoot if you have a decent scope. If a female with young comes in, shoot mama first; the young will hang around even if she is dead.

My peaches are still fine, by the way.
 
Either trap them or do what grumklin said. Peaches in a dog-proof trap! (they are usually too smart to go in a box trap- I normally just end up w/ stupid possums).
 
I tried the red led last night. It did not seam to make them (2) scatter though it was very hard to pick them up through my scope, need to mow the high grass/weeds. When they looked at me there eyes showed up good. I'm using a VX-R Fire dot scope on my 223R, which does very well with low light. I'm going to try the Green LED tonight for I can see a lot better with the green.

I really should setup my ATN digital scope night scope and play with it. The bad thing about it is you can not be moving around. So a bench rest would be required due to the way it process the image.

They just put a new HF in a town that's only 18 mi from me now. Before the nearest one was about 75mi. I'm planning on picking up one of their solar powered lights to setup down by the feeder the next time I go into town.

It may be easier to just trap them as suggested but then I have to deal with the skunks that go for the bait too.

Neighbor wanting to setup and hunt coyotes since their thick around here.

Thanks for the info on their eyes.
 
Using the traps I mentioned above, no chance to catch skunks. I do get an occasional possum and just turn them loose. The animal has to put their arm into a pipe to get to the bait at the bottom of it, and skunks don't do that. Live box type traps will get everything that roams at night, including feral cats, so I shy away from them.
You come out in the morning and the raccoon is just standing there with his leg stuck in a pipe waiting for you.
 
I also have a problem with raccoons. Probably have at least 15 hitting the feeder right now. As I read the rules in Kansas, they are a furbearer and I have to wait till they are in season and that season happens to coincide with deer season. The dog proof traps look real interesting. Thank you Stony for mentioning them. I could set three or four up at night when I leave and check them when I come back the next morning. Aside from the pelts, is there any use for raccoons? Is the meat any good? Or is it not even fit for my dog? Thank you.
 
I also have a problem with raccoons. Probably have at least 15 hitting the feeder right now. As I read the rules in Kansas, they are a furbearer and I have to wait till they are in season and that season happens to coincide with deer season. The dog proof traps look real interesting. Thank you Stony for mentioning them. I could set three or four up at night when I leave and check them when I come back the next morning. Aside from the pelts, is there any use for raccoons? Is the meat any good? Or is it not even fit for my dog? Thank you.

You might check with one of your DNR guys. They're also classified as a fur bearer in OH but according to the DNR guy I talked to, if they're causing a nuisance you can kill them at any time with no special permit.

As far as the meat quality is concerned, I've heard it's OK but greasy. Being a vegetarian, I'll never know from personal experience.
 
I set up my portable shooting bench last night to shoot from. Only one came in just after dark, no moon tonight. I used the Green led this time and was better able to see them. Took out the 1. I used the ATD Digital night scope to see if they were there before turning on the game light. With no wind it was 10-15 sec before I could see through the scope again. I may put by break back on to help disperse the smoke for 2nd shots if needed.
 
Just looked up Duke's dog proof raccoon trap. Cabelas has them for $149.99. Sportsman's Guide has them for $15.99. Interesting.
 
Don't know what Cabellas is thinking, but you can go on ebay and buy them for 11 or 12 bucks each including shipping. There are all kinds of them on there for sale at different prices, but they are reasonable.
 
People use all kinds of bait in those traps including marshmallows and about any fish product. I use floating fish food, just because I had a large bag of it and it works great, but plain old fish flavored dry cat food works good too. Coons just love fishy stuff...
 
Some states require a predation permit if you need to shoot them out of season. My bro-in-law had an infestation of them going after his chickens and pet food stores. After I helped him find a really nice used 22 magnum, over a month long period, he killed around 20 coons; the first 14 he shot one a day for 2 weeks. They can really become pests. He did this after catching about a dozen of them in live traps and releasing them.
 
First of all, it's a myth that the color of light matters.
Not in my experience. Around here, most critters, especially coons, will scatter under white light but most will not with a green light. Shot two more possums and a coon again last night. Have friends that also swear by green lights for hog hunting at night.
 
You might check with one of your DNR guys. They're also classified as a fur bearer in OH but according to the DNR guy I talked to, if they're causing a nuisance you can kill them at any time with no special permit.
It would be hard to claim they are a "nuisance" if the only reason they are there is due to your baiting them.

It's different from one trying to kill your chickens.
 
It would be hard to claim they are a "nuisance" if the only reason they are there is due to your baiting them.

It's different from one trying to kill your chickens.

He is not 'baiting them' by virtue of having a feeder out for other species.

Raccoons are simply opportunistic feeders and have found the food source intended for other animals. No different than your chicken analogy.

If the Raccoons were raiding his corn crop, would you consider that 'baiting' them as well?

I run feeders on our ranch year 'round'. And while our intent is to supplement the food supply of the deer, it is understood that any number of other animals will take advantage of the feeders as well. And that is fine (up to a point).

We have to 'thin out' the raccoon population from time to time when they become so numerous as to become a pest or are 'depredating'.

They are very bad about climbing a feeder and spinning out corn night after night. They will empty a feeder in short order....as well as tear up your equipment.

We use Duke Dog proof traps first, once they get wise to that, I set up 100 yds. away with a .17 HMR and remove the rest. My preference is to use a Red LED light at the feeder (though I also have a rifle mounted light).

And Coons are NOT completely color blind, they are able to see into the green spectrum. But ultimately what matters is light 'intensity' and whether or not they can detect the 'source'.

That is why I use a light at the feeder (mounted as high up as I can get it). This works well for Feral Hogs too. I have found that most animals will walk under a light that is already on (even if they hesitate initially), but are often 'spooked' if suddenly 'lit up' by a light source.
 
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Well said Flintknapper......I leave white solar porch lights at my feeders and everything seems to become acclimated to it. I put out 5 of the Duke Dog Free traps yesterday as the coons are getting pretty thick near one of my feeders and are setting off the hog trap fairly often near there.
 
I have had good results as well with the dog proof traps.
Coons were chewing through the plastic trash can I stored my dog food in so I just put a few pieces in the trap and it did not take long to start catching them.
 
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Started the thin out routine last night, but only caught two. Last time I did this, I gave up around 89 of them. Unfortunately it is necessary from time to time...
 
He is not 'baiting them' by virtue of having a feeder out for other species.
He's "baiting"

The animals can't tell who it's supposed to be for, and the Coons aren't destroying any "property".

The depredation laws that allow them to be shot might not cover that situation, even if one thinks it should.

If the Raccoons were raiding his corn crop, would you consider that 'baiting' them as well?
No, because that's not intentionally spreading feed to attract wildlife.
Let's try to be realistic.

We have to 'thin out' the raccoon population from time to time when they become so numerous as to become a pest or are 'depredating'.
Again, they are only "a pest" because you lure them in, which may not meet the intentions of the regulations.

What you consider "eliminating a pest" could just as easily be called "illegal hunting"
 
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