What companies are still in your favor/will you continue to use after all this hoopla

[justice06rr]

Aimsurplus, JoeBobOutfitters, Spikes Tactical and a couple others.

I've never bought from CTD and never will..

 

[justice06rr]

If no alternative is available, your high price isn't above the market, it IS the market. I see no price gouging, only Econ 101. Demand is at an all time high, and the manufacturers know it won't stay that way. Supply won't be increasing to meet demand any time soon. Instead, prices increase to keep supplies on the shelves.

Here we go again about no price gouging.

Even Wikipidea has a definition: "term referring to a situation in which a seller prices goods or commodities much higher than is considered reasonable or fair. "

I was at a gun show in January at the height of the panic. There was a dealer selling Pmags for $40, and another seller in the same building selling them for $140. $40-50 is fair market price for a $15 mag, $140 obviously is not.

Necessity? Well aren't magazines a necessity for a firearm? Multiple magazines at that.

 

[Agsalaska]

CTD but not because of their prices.

And iwill avoid the price gouging argument. It makes me sick to my stomach.

 

[lcambre]

Fortunately for me, the companies I was buying from before have been good on pricing during this time:
Brownells
DSG
Midway
Champions Choice
I also was able to get ammo at good prices from a couple of local gun stores.

 

[Girodin]

Another company I wont buy from is KVAR. The cancelled an order that was in stock and made just pre panic. Then sent an email offering to substitute it with a different product, which was originally less expensive than the original product. And then charged their new higher price on the replacement product.

People can argue semantic all day. The fact is I'm going to buy from companies that show they respect and value their customers in the long term. I'm going to buy from companies that have policies that help quell the panic not exacerbate it. I'm going to buy from companies that fight to preserve our rights.

I totally think companies are free to jack their prices to what idiots will pay. I have enough guns, mags, and ammo that I can ride out the panics induced by the ill prepared, short sighted, and chicken little types. That said I also spend 10s of thousands of dollars a year on gun stuff and I am just as free to choose where to spend that money during the leaner times. Others can do what they feel good about. I really question the integrity/values of someone who would, knowing the crap CTD has pulled, buy from a company like them to save a dollar.

 

[oneounceload]

Girodin and Justice - did you watch that video I linked to? It might teach you something.

"pricing above the market price when no alternative retailer is available"

When was there no other alternative retailer in the age of the internet?

 

[Orkan]

Midway huh? Not if I can help it.

Lots of guys I know had magazines on order through them. Midway instituted a limit on the number of mags you could buy, and then retroactively applied it to the back-orders of those people that ordered before the limit was in place.

 

[Girodin]

Girodin and Justice - did you watch that video I linked to? It might teach you something

Thanks for the youtube video. I have studied economics including during the pursuit of an advanced degree, one I obtained with manga cum laude honors. But again, thanks for the youtube video. I'm suddenly informed and my world view has changed.

I never said there was anything per se immoral about what they are doing or that they ought not be allowed to do it. Price gauging or whatever one wants to call it, is undoubtedly free market principles at work. I'm okay with that. What I said is just as they are free to charge what the market will bare at a given moment, I'm free to choose not to buy from them, but rather from others who earn my business through service and establishment of a relationship.

I understand that if they don't raise the prices someone else will likely buy the goods and then turn around and raise them. I saw this happening left and right during the height of the panic. I understand how sudden increase in demand affects pricing. I understand how prices going up in turn affects both demand and supply. I understand the nuts and bolts of it. That doesn't mean I'm not free to choose to spend my money with people that use other tools such as rationing, etc and sale at lower prices. Establishing relationships, service, etc is part of capitalism and market choices too.

Canceling orders and then selling those goods at higher prices is on the other hand immoral and a breach of contract if it could be proven.

Fear mongering in order to cause a panic is pretty questionable.

In sum they are free to price their goods as they like. I'm also free to buy from vendors I feel treat me well.

 

[goon]

Magpul has shown themselves to be very solid through this whole thing.
Midway has continued to deliver items to me that were placed on order before the panic as they have become available.
Ruger has been taking backorders throughout and only raised the prices on their BX-25 magazines to $31.95. I think they were $2 cheaper pre-panic, and people were paying $75 each for them at one point.
I also got a couple things from Cabela's at their normal slightly high price - but they were reliable and they allowed me to backorder.
I'll keep working with all these companies in the future.

I'll never give Cheaper Than Dirt another dollar for anything ever again.