jerkface11
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They probably spent more on them than I spent on my bench rifle though.
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what could make my 10/22 more accurate than this?
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They probably spent more on them than I spent on my bench rifle though.
you can also ask the people at www.rimfirecentral.com
they have alot of advice on makeing the 10/22 accurate
as for the .22 rifles not being worth the money i have 300 invested in mine above the 198 i spent on the rifle why?
because thats the rifle i shoot most and thats the rifle i enjoy so why not plunk a little money on it
they have alot of advice on makeing the 10/22 accurate
as for the .22 rifles not being worth the money i have 300 invested in mine above the 198 i spent on the rifle why?
because thats the rifle i shoot most and thats the rifle i enjoy so why not plunk a little money on it
jerkface11
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Dimis i wouldn't say $500 is too much to spend. I have however seen what some people are willing to spend on a 10/22 and it's WAY more than $500.
They probably spent more on them than I spent on my bench rifle though.
Ding ding ding!
To get the gun to shoot a little better, you will spend a LOT more. The law of diminishing marginal rate of returns applies here.
Work on the trigger, enjoy the gun.
Use all that money to buy a second gun, not to make your gun shoot slightly smaller groups (with expensive ammo).
Buying a bolt rifle that shoots better won't cost more than throwing more money at the 10/22, and then you'll have a high-end, very accurate rifle when you want it AND your fun 10/22.
I like how some of you are telling us how to spend out money. I have embarrassed many of you HMR, 223, 308, 22 Match shooters with my 10/22 at 50 yards. It is easy to do and you can do it fairly cheaply.
the action and barrel must be solidly supported. The hogue stock is nice for packing and shooting, very comfortable to hold, but it is not in any way a target stock. To much flex. You can use your factory stock and modify it on the cheap by adding a wider forearm and pistol grip, installing a cheek piece helps also. Sanding out the barrel chamber for a wider barrel and giving it a full bedding job. You don't need to ad a rear take down screw. If you don't like doing the work yourself, just find a good laminate stock you like and buy it.
Buy a decent trigger, hammer and sear. You can modify your factory group or add new parts, even a complete housing.
Lots of options to choose from, don't spend your money the second you see something shiny. Many people spend craploads of money on parts they don't need because they are trying to cover a problem rather than fix it.
Looking at your groups, your stock is the biggest issue, with a better trigger being second.
Most of all, enjoy the Ruger, it's fun and incredibly addicting.
the action and barrel must be solidly supported. The hogue stock is nice for packing and shooting, very comfortable to hold, but it is not in any way a target stock. To much flex. You can use your factory stock and modify it on the cheap by adding a wider forearm and pistol grip, installing a cheek piece helps also. Sanding out the barrel chamber for a wider barrel and giving it a full bedding job. You don't need to ad a rear take down screw. If you don't like doing the work yourself, just find a good laminate stock you like and buy it.
Buy a decent trigger, hammer and sear. You can modify your factory group or add new parts, even a complete housing.
Lots of options to choose from, don't spend your money the second you see something shiny. Many people spend craploads of money on parts they don't need because they are trying to cover a problem rather than fix it.
Looking at your groups, your stock is the biggest issue, with a better trigger being second.
Most of all, enjoy the Ruger, it's fun and incredibly addicting.
BornAgainBullseye
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Yes subsonic is great for target work as it never has to from supersonic to transonic..... It is already transonic! If I had a million dollars I'd try a 1:9" twist barrel and a 60 grain subsonic just for fun. I'm sure somebody here has tried it. My rifle shoots MOLR with the Remington subsonic and is nice and quiet
As said there are a few things that come to mind right away.
The vertical stringing would make me think trigger or bipod. I would ditch the bipod and shoot off a good rest with a good rear bag. Its amazing what the rest and bags do for you. Next would be to find the lightest trigger you can find. The aftermarket hammers are ok but still heavy for a bench only rifle. I have one and it is a HUGE improvement over stock but still not what a good bench trigger would be.
From there the next thing I thought was Hogue stock has to go. They aren't terrible stocks and I don't mean much disrespect but they are soft and flex. For group size that isn't what you want. Either a solid synthetic (which good ones are EXPENSIVE) or a laminate shaped to ride bags would be a good change. This gets back to the good rest/bags comment. When you have a decently designed stock and a good rest things become much easier. Once you get a solid stock bed it or have it bedded.
The barrel is ok but I doubt it is going to shoot 1/2 MOA. I have one and it certainly is fun. Its hard to get that accurate for $100. Still I would go out and try a bunch of different ammo. Generally the more you spend the better. People rarely shoot amazing groups consistently with cheap ammo. Too many variations in the rounds themselves to shoot top groups.
From there you can do things like truing the bolt and chamber, threading the barrel to the receiver, pinning the firing pin, etc to get every last drop of accuracy out of the thing but the big points I would work on are the rest, the rest(meant it a second time as I think its that important), the ammo (probably just as important as the rest) the stock, and the trigger.
The vertical stringing would make me think trigger or bipod. I would ditch the bipod and shoot off a good rest with a good rear bag. Its amazing what the rest and bags do for you. Next would be to find the lightest trigger you can find. The aftermarket hammers are ok but still heavy for a bench only rifle. I have one and it is a HUGE improvement over stock but still not what a good bench trigger would be.
From there the next thing I thought was Hogue stock has to go. They aren't terrible stocks and I don't mean much disrespect but they are soft and flex. For group size that isn't what you want. Either a solid synthetic (which good ones are EXPENSIVE) or a laminate shaped to ride bags would be a good change. This gets back to the good rest/bags comment. When you have a decently designed stock and a good rest things become much easier. Once you get a solid stock bed it or have it bedded.
The barrel is ok but I doubt it is going to shoot 1/2 MOA. I have one and it certainly is fun. Its hard to get that accurate for $100. Still I would go out and try a bunch of different ammo. Generally the more you spend the better. People rarely shoot amazing groups consistently with cheap ammo. Too many variations in the rounds themselves to shoot top groups.
From there you can do things like truing the bolt and chamber, threading the barrel to the receiver, pinning the firing pin, etc to get every last drop of accuracy out of the thing but the big points I would work on are the rest, the rest(meant it a second time as I think its that important), the ammo (probably just as important as the rest) the stock, and the trigger.
Wow! You guys are serious about this stuff! If I could shoot groups like the ones in the OP, I'd be so thrilled I'd probably wet myself. I can't even see well enough to do that kind of shooting. Maybe I should get out more....
FlyinBryan
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The vertical stringing would make me think trigger or bipod. I would ditch the bipod and shoot off a good rest with a good rear bag. Its amazing what the rest and bags do for you.
ya, they always stretch vertically. im going to try without the bipod, and with some trigger work and see what happens. also will try a few different ammo brands this weekend.
its so lose, if i could just cut the vertical into half of what the horizontal is id be thrilled.
lol, thx rondog for the compliments.
do yourself the favor i wish id done for myself:
if you ever see a guy at the range with a heavy spiral fluted barrel and a scope as long as the rifle, and he laughs histerically after each shot, run the othe way and absolutly DO NOT look at his targets!!!!!!
lol, ignorance is bliss.
FlyinBryan, those are some great groups you posted there. There are a lot of things you can do to improve your groups just with messing with your ammo. If I am looking for super tight groups I well take a rim gage and measure the rims of my ammo. You can also wiegh them. Long story short you want your ammo to be as consistant as possible. It works trust me.
rangerruck
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number one; TRIGGER JOB!!!!! either do it yourself fantastically, or send it off. Secondly, freefloat that bbl, wich is hard to do with a overmolded stock. so start hand sanding out that stock. 3rd, send of your rifle to Randy at CPC, and have him true up the action/boltface/chamber.
That will get you what you want. But first, trigger job is most important.
go over to rimfirecentral.com, and learn how to do one.
See all your vertical stringing? either you are shooting it wrong, or your stock is touching the bbl, and doing that.
Don't kid yourself; the Green Mountain boys make an excellent bbl, and do so for many mfgrs of rifles,
that is why yours is cheap. But you could in no way have a true action, to the boltface, to the bbl.
get them all talking together , and walking together, EXACTLY ON THE SAME PAGE, and those groups
will shrink a bit more.
That will get you what you want. But first, trigger job is most important.
go over to rimfirecentral.com, and learn how to do one.
See all your vertical stringing? either you are shooting it wrong, or your stock is touching the bbl, and doing that.
Don't kid yourself; the Green Mountain boys make an excellent bbl, and do so for many mfgrs of rifles,
that is why yours is cheap. But you could in no way have a true action, to the boltface, to the bbl.
get them all talking together , and walking together, EXACTLY ON THE SAME PAGE, and those groups
will shrink a bit more.
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