What DA/SA 357?

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Why would anyone want an 8 shot 6 shooter? Must be a punybellum advocate.:p
If you can't getter done with 6 the last two must be to end your misery, although I must admit that old Hopalong must of had a 24 shooter.:D
 
I have a 2.5inch 686+ and a 3 inch Wiley Clapp GP 100. The GP 100 is just a better put together revolver. My only regret is I didn't get longer barrel lengths to really take advantage of the 357. Also, the Colt and Kimber 357's seem to be quality options.
 
DR505 said:
Excellent choices. I’ve got Model 27s, 28s, 627s, and 686s and really like them all. Never warmed to Ruger DA revolvers, but their SA offerings cannot be beat.
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I recently bought a 6.5 inch stainless Blackhawk in 357. The only Ruger DA revolver I want is a 4.2 in sp101.
 
I would opt for a 7 shot GP100 or a pre lock 686+ given your stipulations. Good luck
 
I’ve only got experience with 2 .357s (the 2 I own). The GP100 was my first. Almost no recoil shooting.38s and very mild recoil with .357s. You can shoot it all day long. The factory grips aren’t pretty, but they work great. I thought about changing them out to something prettier, but I’m keeping it stock. The other one is a different animal, the Colt King Cobra Target. It’s trigger is light years better than the GP100. Shooting .38s is smooth as butter and you can just stay on target shot after shot. Move to .357s and it’s a zippier experience due its lighter weight, but thoroughly enjoyable. Both are 4 inch barrels. I would highly recommend both, but if I could have only one.......King Cobra Target because of that trigger.
 
Mr. Mosin said:
Perhaps a Mdl 27 ? I'd personally take a Mdl 27 over a Python any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Even the new 27 Classic and reintroduced Python.
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Since he said "the best there is" without any qualifiers, I was actually thinking along the lines of a Ratzeburg-produced Korth Combat or Sport, a Janz, or a Mulhouse-produced Manurhin MR73.

I do definitely prefer the Model 27 -- and especially its progenitors -- over the 586/686, however, since I come at all of this with a collector's perspective, with history and nostalgia weighing not insignificantly in my thinking. The L-frame has never really done anything for me. I'll admit that a 586 or 686 is a lot of revolver for the money, though, and the ones I've shot have all been great shooters. And they're really better suited for .357 Mag. than the N-frame, which of course was originally designed for a round .072 inches greater in diameter. The excessive angular momentum of the N-frame's oversized cylinder in .357 Mag. can be hell on the cylinder stop and the cylinder notches with regular fast DA shooting or fast hand-cocking; this is not really a problem with an L-frame. Even so, the L-frame leaves me cold. Just not enough history there, and a full-underlug barrel looks out of place on a S&W to my eyes.

It's a little more complicated for me with the Python, which I love. No post-WWII American revolver can compare to a 1950s (or early-to-mid 1960s) Python in fit and finish. (Fit and finish can too often be pretty deplorable on old-model Pythons made from the 1980s through the end of production, on the other hand.) Colt's metallurgy has generally always been superior to that of S&W, both with regard to alloy grade and heat treatment, and the major parts on a Python are considerably tougher than those on a Model 27. That said, the major parts are generally strong enough on a Model 27, and S&Ws aren't afflicted with the Python's comparatively delicate action -- owing to the overrated and pointless "bank vault lockup" involving the hand being stressed at the moment of ignition -- or the stacking of its DA trigger pull. I dearly love my early Pythons, but I prefer an N-frame .357 Mag. (pre-Model 27 or, especially, Registered Magnum) at the range. Hell, if I can make myself set aside the history/nostalgia fixation, I'd have to concede that I'd prefer a 586/686 to a Python at the range as well.
 
AustinTX said:
Since he said "the best there is" without any qualifiers, I was actually thinking along the lines of a Ratzeburg-produced Korth Combat or Sport, a Janz, or a Mulhouse-produced Manurhin MR73.

I do definitely prefer the Model 27 -- and especially its progenitors -- over the 586/686, however, since I come at all of this with a collector's perspective, with history and nostalgia weighing not insignificantly in my thinking. The L-frame has never really done anything for me. I'll admit that a 586 or 686 is a lot of revolver for the money, though, and the ones I've shot have all been great shooters. And they're really better suited for .357 Mag. than the N-frame, which of course was originally designed for a round .072 inches greater in diameter. The excessive angular momentum of the N-frame's oversized cylinder in .357 Mag. can be hell on the cylinder stop and the cylinder notches with regular fast DA shooting or fast hand-cocking; this is not really a problem with an L-frame. Even so, the L-frame leaves me cold. Just not enough history there, and a full-underlug barrel looks out of place on a S&W to my eyes.

It's a little more complicated for me with the Python, which I love. No post-WWII American revolver can compare to a 1950s (or early-to-mid 1960s) Python in fit and finish. (Fit and finish can too often be pretty deplorable on old-model Pythons made from the 1980s through the end of production, on the other hand.) Colt's metallurgy has generally always been superior to that of S&W, both with regard to alloy grade and heat treatment, and the major parts on a Python are considerably tougher than those on a Model 27. That said, the major parts are generally strong enough on a Model 27, and S&Ws aren't afflicted with the Python's comparatively delicate action -- owing to the overrated and pointless "bank vault lockup" involving the hand being stressed at the moment of ignition -- or the stacking of its DA trigger pull. I dearly love my early Pythons, but I prefer an N-frame .357 Mag. (pre-Model 27 or, especially, Registered Magnum) at the range. Hell, if I can make myself set aside the history/nostalgia fixation, I'd have to concede that I'd prefer a 586/686 to a Python at the range as well.
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For a *carry* gun, an every day; on the hip, carry; I would take a Mdl 19 or Colt Trooper Mk. III any day of the week. Preferably a Mdl 19. The half lugged 4" Mdl 19 (or most *any* 4" K-frame for me) simply points like the finger of God Himself. First DA center fire revolver I ever handled and shot was a '48 M&P .38 Spl. Tackdriver @ 20 yards or so.
 
Mr. Mosin said:
For a *carry* gun, an every day; on the hip, carry; I would take a Mdl 19 or Colt Trooper Mk. III any day of the week. Preferably a Mdl 19. The half lugged 4" Mdl 19 (or most *any* 4" K-frame for me) simply points like the finger of God Himself. First DA center fire revolver I ever handled and shot was a '48 M&P .38 Spl. Tackdriver @ 20 yards or so.
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Oh, for sure. My revolvers all fall into one of two categories -- unfired collectibles or range toys -- so I don't really weigh easy of carry in my evaluations. But thanks for reminding me that the OP did mention that he'd be carrying whatever he bought.

But on that point, I'll just note that -- despite being far, far stronger than any S&W revolver -- both a 4" Korth Combat and a 4" Manurhin MR73 weigh no more than a 4" Model 19. :) Still love the K-frames, though.
 
AustinTX said:
I've always thought the six-shot .357 Mag. Redhawk was just a ghastly, preposterous creation. From time to time, though, I think about finding one anyway.
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IDK there AustinTX, I see a 6 shot 357 Mag Redhawk as Ruger's take on a S&W's 357 N Frames. ;)
 
AustinTX said:
Oh, for sure. My revolvers all fall into one of two categories -- unfired collectibles or range toys -- so I don't really weigh easy of carry in my evaluations. But thanks for reminding me that the OP did mention that he'd be carrying whatever he bought.

But on that point, I'll just note that -- despite being far, far stronger than any S&W revolver -- both a 4" Korth Combat and a 4" Manurhin MR73 weigh no more than a 4" Model 19. :) Still love the K-frames, though.
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OP here. I suppose I should specify my meaning of the word 'carry'. The gun will spend time cased up in the utility box of a atv, truck console, or in that "special drawer" in the camper.
Not so much steady hip carry but open carry when needed.
 
Personally I would recommend a S&W 686.
I have been shooting an 8-3/8" for decades.
I also own a couple of Colt Troopers and a S&W Model 27, plus several Blackhawks.
The Troopers are probably a better size for carry guns and are very nice and accurate as well but I personally prefer the S&W revolvers.
Worry not...the Colts aren't going anywhere nor are my BlackHawks. They all get shot almost every weekend.
 
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