What do I REALLY want?

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Yardstick

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I'm having trouble with a want for a rifle. I have no immediate use for one. I hunt, but I only hunt with my compound bow (Martin Fury). I have a few handguns for fun and defense (Buck Mark 5.5 target with a Red Dot, 2x 1911's, PT-111 and even a Rohm RG-38!). But I have no SERIOUS rifle.

I already own a .22 lr bolt action rifle (Marlin something or other) and I'm pretty darn good with it. A long time ago I took out a framing nail sticking out of a 2x4 at 100 yards when the rifle only had a little bb-gun size scope on it. Now it's got a big ol' Bushnell 4-12x with some kind of adjustment for yardage on the other end (the scope was given to me, so I don't even know what tricks it really does). I can literally keyhole rounds at 100 yards with what was a $70 gunshow rifle. I wondered one time if I hit the target with all of my 7 rounds, so I aimed in a different location for each shot of the next magazine and sure enough, a hole appeared in each place I intended to put one. :D

I had an SKS for a while and was never quite sure how to tell where it was manufactured. It felt and seemed pretty powerful, but I had a better chance of hitting something at a distance with the Rohm revolver! That SKS had a brutal, gritty, long trigger pull, a loose compensator and screws that seemed to randomly fall out of it. It had been converted to be some kind of hunting rifle and had a fiber/resin stock and a 5-shot top-loading, drop-bottom magazine. That and the Rohm are two guns where I am positive I am more accurate than the gun. It was another one that was given to me, but it just wasn't worth keeping. At least the Rohm has some sentimental value. When I think about it now, I probably should have held onto the SKS and tried to smooth the trigger and do whatever it might take to accurize it a little better. At the time I had no idea how to do either, so it got sold to someone who did want it.

I've always had some fascination with 'sniper' rifles, their power and accuracy, especially the much drooled over PSG-1. That one is pretty much a non-option due to price and availability. I like some of the AR variants I've seen in short carbine and also long thick barreled varmint versions, both with the flat tops and in either .308 or .223. I've considered Savage and Remington 700's in either .308 or .30-06. Combinations also appeal to me, like a short AR in .223 and a bolt gun in one of the .30 caliber options, or maybe both in .308 or .223 for ammo standardization. I'm still working on narrowing my wants down, since there's no real purpose other than to punch paper at a range or other targets far away from home. I hadn't really thought about one for if the 'S' ever did 'HTF', but it/they could be for that.

So what do I really want? Anybody want to tell me how to spend my money? :D
 
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how much money do you want to spend. i dont have an AR but a friend does, he loves and it shoots great. mabee you want a savage .308 in heavy barrell. with the accu-tirgger i hear they are very nice. especialy for the money.
 
Three rifles, and you do need all three:

M1 Garand. This .30-06 is fun to shoot and might save your life at some point. It's also a historical thing.

Marlin 336 or Winchester '94, either one or both, in .30-30. Why? Everbody oughta have one and about 400rds of good hunting ammo. Good deer rifle.

Winchester M70 or Savage M11, either one or both, in .243 Winchester. Shoots farther flatter than a .30-30, lighter than the M1. Good deer rifle.
 
Ah yes, the money thing. There's not really a 'budget', but I'm a bit cheap. I like when I can get a lot for a little. I like it when I can get something fairly inexpensive and have it outperform the more expensive equivalent. One of my 1911's is a Dan Wesson that I paid $650 for and it's far more accurate than I am (with a pistol). That pistol looks awesome, functions great, the slide feels glass smooth riding over the frame and it is super-accurate. I'm not a fan of going so cheap that whatever I get just falls apart of fails miserably to perform. So I don't know if that helps or even makes much sense, but there it is!

Oh, and add a .50 caliber rifle into that mix just for fun. :D
 
yeah, mabee you should go with the savage in .308. they are deffiniatly worth every penny, make shure it has the accu trigger.
i would have bought one but im working on a .50 cal before i cant buy one :banghead:

oh also dont go cheepo on the scope. buy a nice leupold.
 
I have a Remington 700 PSS in .308, and I love it. It is very accurate, I've shot clay pigeons at 840 yards with it. If you're wanting a good bolt action .308 or .223, check out the Remington PSS or one of their other heavy barrel offerings, or the Savage with the AccuTrigger. Either one should shoot very well. The Remington is a better base if you ever decide to go custom (hey, you never know), and the Savage is better if you like tinkering with them yourself- you can do a barrel swap at home with them.

Accurate rifles are fun. I have a dime in my office that I like to pull out when people start bragging on their rifle skills. It has a hole almost dead center that I shot at 100 yards. Granted, I can't do that all the time, but it's a good feeling when everything is falling in place, and it seems like you just can't miss.
 
Red_SC said:
I have a Remington 700 PSS in .308, and I love it. It is very accurate, I've shot clay pigeons at 840 yards with it. If you're wanting a good bolt action .308 or .223, check out the Remington PSS or one of their other heavy barrel offerings, or the Savage with the AccuTrigger. Either one should shoot very well. The Remington is a better base if you ever decide to go custom (hey, you never know), and the Savage is better if you like tinkering with them yourself- you can do a barrel swap at home with them.

Accurate rifles are fun. I have a dime in my office that I like to pull out when people start bragging on their rifle skills. It has a hole almost dead center that I shot at 100 yards. Granted, I can't do that all the time, but it's a good feeling when everything is falling in place, and it seems like you just can't miss.

^^^^well said^^^
sounds like you are a hell of a shot!!!
i think i have a few more outings to shoot clays at 840yds. lol
 
I'm a decent shot, but I get showed up often enough. Hitting stuff that far out really isn't as hard as you might think. If you can shoot a 3/4" group at 100 yards, theoretically you could shoot a 6" group at 800 yards. Since a clay is what, around 4", that's a pretty good hit probability. Factor in some wind, which is usually pretty mild around here, and your hits will drop some, but it's still fun.

Incidentally, I've only shot that far once. I was shooting in a 600 yd. match, and before it started I was shooting some out farther with the guy who invited me. It amazed me that I could hit something that far out, but it was easier than I thought. I was shooting prone with a bipod- the guy I was with shot only two rounds, and hit one clay- prone with a sling, no front rest. That's good shooting.:what:
 
Yardstick said:
Ah yes, the money thing. There's not really a 'budget', but I'm a bit cheap. I like when I can get a lot for a little. I like it when I can get something fairly inexpensive and have it outperform the more expensive equivalent. One of my 1911's is a Dan Wesson that I paid $650 for and it's far more accurate than I am (with a pistol). That pistol looks awesome, functions great, the slide feels glass smooth riding over the frame and it is super-accurate. I'm not a fan of going so cheap that whatever I get just falls apart of fails miserably to perform. So I don't know if that helps or even makes much sense, but there it is!

Oh, and add a .50 caliber rifle into that mix just for fun. :D

Well, since you mention that you are frugal, I will fall back on a common recommendation I make to price-conscious rifle buyers; A Ruger M77 Mk II in .30-06. Under $500 at any reasonable shop. Not exactly a "sniper rifle", but plenty accurate for hunting and they don't come any more versatile than the .30-06. Also, I personally think Ruger has some of the nicest blueing out there.

As to the .50 cal rifle, you will have to adjust your definition of cheap to incorporate four digits.
 
Thinking of Ruger M77 Mkll, you can also find those used in good condition for under $300. No, it's not a "sniper rifle", but it is a real good hunting rifle. I've seen one do 1.5" at 100yds with a better (meaning better for this one rifle) 150gr Hornady SP handload.
 
"...I have no immediate use for one..." 'I want one' is reason enough to buy one.
"...tried to smooth the trigger..." Trying to accurize a stop gap rifle designed for illiterate conscripts will drive you to drink. Never mind trying to use surplus ammo to do it.
Pop over to your CMP and buy a Garand or 1903A3. Forget sniper rifles(they're just very accurate bolt actions for the most part). Too pricey these days. Any U.S. issue sniper rifle will start at 2 grand for one in mediocre condition. http://www.odcmp.com/
Rectal orifice that I am, my 1903A4 cost me $175Cdn., original mount but no scope, 20 years ago.
 
Guys, not to cut things down, but dimes are easy targets...

If you spend a few grand for a rifle.

If you're looking to sample something close to state of the art rifle accuracy, look at www.benchrest.com, under complete rifles, and give Bob White at Shooters Corner a call. He does used accurized rifles, and he does them very well. And he will NOT screw you over.
 
Yardstick said:
A long time ago I took out a framing nail sticking out of a 2x4 at 100 yards when the rifle only had a little bb-gun size scope on it. ..... I can literally keyhole rounds at 100 yards with what was a $70 gunshow rifle. I wondered one time if I hit the target with all of my 7 rounds, so I aimed in a different location for each shot of the next magazine and sure enough, a hole appeared in each place I intended to put one. :D

Yardstick said:
Ah yes, the money thing. There's not really a 'budget', but I'm a bit cheap. I like when I can get a lot for a little. I like it when I can get something fairly inexpensive and have it outperform the more expensive equivalent.

Yup, thought so, another born Savage/Stevens shooter. ;)
 
My .02$............

Build one......

Go buy a old bottem of the barrel Turk 98 mauser for 45$$, Get some books, and ask alot of questions, LEARN LEARN and dont forget LEARN, and have lots of fun while you do it!! the 98 will most likely shoot straight out once you clean it up, then you can decide what you want to do from there, new stock? new barrel? maybe a different caliber... learn about drilling and taping a reciver, and about a year and half from now, you will have a rifle that you learned all about, put your hard work into, and a helluva feeling of a job well done!! Not to mention one heack of a heirloom..... giving your kids(if you got any) the gun daddy made, or the gun daddy bought?

But then again Im a hands on kinda guy.:D
 
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