What does New York Complaint mean for a gun?

[JLStorm]

I am thinking about buying a handgun from a dealer on gunbroker who is in NY. He stated that the gun is NY compliant, what does this mean? I dont live in NY and dont want any commi alterations to my guns.

 

[Henry Bowman]

dont want any commi alterations to my guns.

Unnecessarily low road. By "commi" we presume you mean arbitrary and authoritarian in purpose. The "commi's" have produced some pretty effective weaponry (e.g., the AK47 and variants). I'm not defending communism, just pointing out that you don't need to use derogatory terms to express your question and doing so can make you meaning less clear.


And I'm sorry I don't have an answer to your question about the meaning of "NY compliant" as it applies to handguns.

 

[CNYCacher]

commi

Sure thing, comrade.
A NY-compliant pistol doesn't have a threaded barrel, and unless the mags were made before 1994, the mags hold 10 or less rounds.

Oh, and it won't be full-auto or select-fire.

 

[armoredman]

Yuck, neutered mags.

 

[JLStorm]

well the mag thing isnt an issue since the standard capacity mags are 8 rounds, I just wanted to make sure they didnt do anything with trigger weight or disconnect or whatever the new rage is this month.

 

[SDC]

It also means the pistol is delivered from the factory with two fired cases that MAY have been fired in that pistol, so that it could be entered in NY State's "ballistic fingerprinting database"; since it wouldn't be going to NY, they'd stay with the pistol.

 

[Zundfolge]

If its a Glock it could also mean it has the "New York Trigger". Which is a heavier (~12lb) trigger that was required for NYPD as per their regs.

 

[HKUSP45C]

For a completely zany, nutty and off-the-wall suggestion, might I propose that you should ask the cat selling it? There is a slim chance if he's selling it as "New York compliant" he might, maybe know what exactly it means.

Just a thought, might be a long shot.

 

[JLStorm]

he has told me one thing which is the spent casing, many other people have said it may have a heavier LEM trigger...he has no clue.

 

[HKUSP45C]

Then by all means disregard my reply. It appears you took my advice before I offered it.

 

[hexidismal]

Well what gun are we talking about here ?

 

[JLStorm]

Sorry, its the USP compact 45 with factory LEM, they have 3 LEM weights the use for the USP series and the standard is the mid weight trigger pull commonly referred to as the V2 LEM. I am wondering if the New York models use the heavier LEM trigger to satisfy some state requirement. Unfortuneately the seller doesnt seem to know.

 

[hexidismal]

Ok, I think I can answer this one. If you're not in a big hurry, I'd be happy to ask my smith here in NY who is very good would almost certainly know and get back to you tomorrow.

BUT.. here's what I THINK is a good answer. technically an NY compliant gun would not require a higher weight modified trigger.. with a but. If he has the factory case with the sticker on it, you should be able to find out if what he has is the much more common NY/MA compliant trigger, which if I'm not mistaken due to Mass. requirements needs to be raised to 10lb. . I've seen alot of guns sold in NY to have the NY/MA compliance to save the trouble. Normal LEM trigger should be 7.3-8.5 lb.

 

[Prince Yamato]

It also means the pistol is delivered from the factory with two fired cases that MAY have been fired in that pistol, so that it could be entered in NY State's "ballistic fingerprinting database"; since it wouldn't be going to NY, they'd stay with the pistol.

Yes. That was the case with my Springfield GI. In NYS all handguns require ballistic finger-printing. So even a 'new' gun has been shot before, at the factory. This is what is meant by "NY Compliant".

NYS still has an AW ban, as people have mentioned, but that has nothing to do with "NY Compliant".

The "New York Trigger" was just a heavier trigger for the Glock ordered by the NYPD because of NDs by the NYPD.

 

[RPCVYemen]

Unnecessarily low road...

It might also be pointed out that although the term "commie" is very popular on THR, it is almost always used incorrectly. Pick up any dictionary. Read the definition of communism. There are many definitions, but all of them will include the abolition of "private property" Here's a reasonably succinct definition.

A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.

Can anyone on THR actually name an elected politician in the US who actually want to abolish all private property?

I understand that when we are in elementary school and calling names, any bad name - no matter how accurate - is fair game. I expect adults engaged in political debate to be able to at least label those with whom they disagree accurately. That does not always happen on THR, which is disappointing.

Mike