What else do I really need

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I received alot of cabelas gift cards for Christmas, and used them to buy a Lee classic turret press kit. The cabelas kit does not come with any of the case conditioning tools that come with the kit that other people sell but I did get a lee 4 die set for 40 s&w and my wife got me the lee reloading stand. I'm not going to be ordering any components for 2 or 3 weeks as we are moving. But I do want to pick up anything else I will need before then I'm just not sure what all I absolutely need to get before I start loading. Thanks in advance for any suggestions

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OK I'll start:
Bullet Puller - the RCBS kinetic bullet puller is more than adequate
Calipers - digital is cheaper and some like it more than a dial caliper, your choice
Tumbler - not really necessary, but handy. You can simply wipe the cases off your 40 S&W cases, folks have been doing that for decades.
Primers, powder, projectiles - do your homework and research what you want to shoot and what your objective is.
 
I forgot to list that I have the ABC's of reloading, the Lyman 49th,and the lee 2nd edition


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I received alot of cabelas gift cards for Christmas, and used them to buy a Lee classic turret press kit. The cabelas kit does not come with any of the case conditioning tools that come with the kit that other people sell but I did get a lee 4 die set for 40 s&w and my wife got me the lee reloading stand. I'm not going to be ordering any components for 2 or 3 weeks as we are moving. But I do want to pick up anything else I will need before then I'm just not sure what all I absolutely need to get before I start loading. Thanks in advance for any suggestions

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Aside from the components, you only need three things, physically, to load ammunition.

A press (because fingers are not strong enough)
Dies (because fingers are not precise enough)
A way to mete powder (because eyeballs are not precise enough)

To most folks, this means a press, dies and a scale.

Everything else just makes things faster, easier, simpler or more accurate.

Of course one would be foolish to load without a manual or two for referencing load recipes.

A primer dispenser is a great convenience. Handles putting the primers into your priming arm.

A powder measure (The Lee Auto-Disk is the natural adjunct to your press and dies) makes things CONSIDERABLY faster. Get the Pro model. It is worth the small price boost over the standard Auto-disk.

Case prep? Buy those items as you discover the need for them.

I loaded for 3 decades before I had a brass cleaning vibratory tumbler. I just wiped them clean with a soft rag. My cartridges are prettier now, but shoot just the same.

A trickler is handy, but you can do the same function with a butterknife or an empty cartridge (longer ones are better if you have large hands).

You can chamfer case mouths with a pocketknife, but the proper tool is easier. You may load thousands of rounds before you discover the need for one, though.

See the pattern?

You have a couple of weeks to study. Get a copy of "The ABC's of Reloading". Any edition. Your local library may have one if you don't want to have to pack it. It is put together by a number of different editors; each time a new edition comes out the writing styles vary. Lyman's Manual is one of my (and a whole slew of others, too) favorites. Lee's Modern Reloading is good reading, too. Once you get past Lee's self-aggrandizing, there is a lot of good information in there that it will take you a long time to digest, but once you do, you will know a lot about internal ballistics.

Welcome to reloading and thanks for asking our advice.

Lost Sheep
 
You'll need a powder trickler.

Not disputing Larry, but the trickler is not really needed, it handy, but.............

I loaded ammo for years without one and still do when using my powder measures. I only weigh every 10 or so rounds checking my measure.

Hey, it a fine accessary to have and if you feel you need it it, go for it, I just don't find it a necessory/required item.
 
Calipers. You need these to measure.

Bullet Puller - To fix your mistakes.

Scale. - You have to check your charge.

Powder Trickler. - It is handy to have. Not the most valuable tool but still handy. To trickle the last bit of powder you need into the pan.

Tumbler - To clean of your brass to inspect for any damage to your brass.

Powder, Projectiles, and Primers as well. Make sure to read and watch videos to learn how to set up the dies and get a better idea on how to do the process

Hand primer - Great tool. Get this if you don't prime on the press.

Powder Measure / Dispenser is something you will need as well to get the powder into the cases.
 
Depends on what you expect them to do. If all you want is to hit a pop can at 10' with 10 rounds a week then dies & press or Lee Loader & hammer. If you are going to shoot 1K'S at a time your needs are different.
 
I have the Classic turret with the Lee PRO Auto-disk powder dispenser (you also need the Auto-disk riser ($8) to use the on press Safety Prime system (did that come with the Cabelas kit?)

https://fsreloading.com/html/xcart/catalog/primtool.html

The Lee beam scale does work but is a bit of a PIA - I have a $30 digital that works well - the RCBS/Dillon/Ohaus 505 beam scale (about $65) gets RAVE reviews.
 
Case prep eh ?

Cant go wrong with a(n) RCBS trim-mate.

Handy, fairly quiet, and you can add a bunch of fun case tools to your setup that way :)
 
If handgun ammo is all you are doing you won't need a trimmer or powder trickler anytime soon.

Like said above, you will need the riser if you are using a Pro Auto-Disk and the Lee Safety Primer system.

Some advise, check everything twice but don't over think the process. Loading ammo is supposed to be fun, not a job...
 
If you already have the lee kit and some manuals all your really need is a set of calipers.

I'd pick up a new scale too because in my opinion the lee scale is frustrating beyond belief.

The adjustable powder charge bar is good too, that way you don't have to mess with the discs and you can increase your powder charge a little at a time.
 
Many people spend way too much to get started.


What you really need to have:

Reloading manual
Press
Dies
Shell holder or plate
Scales
Calipers
Deburring/chamfer tool
Priming tool if the press won't do it
Components (Brass, powder, primers, bullets)


What you will need eventually:

Trimmer - Sooner with rifle
Primer pocket swage tool (If you load .223)


What you should consider:

Tumbler
Another reloading manual
Funnel
Micrometer
Ball micrometer


What you might want to add later:

Heck, you name it. :)
 
I forgot to list that I have the ABC's of reloading, the Lyman 49th,and the lee 2nd edition


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One problem as a new reloader myself, is that more than one guide would be preferable. I have the Lyman 49th edition as well. I kept having failure to feed issues on about one out of six rounds with my .380s in my new Kahr .380 with hollow points after I got all my other first timer problems sorted out.

The Lyman guide listed the OAL (acronym I think I got now) at .984. The Lyman guide doesn't give a different length for different weight bullets, hollow points etc. I just couldn't get any feeding reliability out of hollow points, in fact they just barely loaded in the magazine (Speer gold dot HP). I was using Hodgdon Powder HP-38. I measured some of my factory HP (COR-BON, Hornady) lengths and they all were quite a bit shorter, .938 for COR-BON. I went to the Hodgdon web site. They listed C.O.L. for .380 90 gr JHP at .955 with 3.2 to 3.5 grs. powder. The 100gr FMJ rounds were .980 C.O.L. I haven't loaded any more .380s yet but will definitely get more than one source for length info in the future calibers.
 
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