What gun for carrying on ranch/farm?

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i live on my farm and keep a ruger 10/22 in my main farm pickup 24/7. during hunting seasons i add the appropriate rifle or shotgun, but the 22 never leaves the truck and gets year-round use.

make no mistake, the .22 is a very deadly round. i've killed muskrats, beaver, nutria, yotes, deer, hogs, and am host of snakes, etc. with that old ruger.

if i lived where 2 legged vermin were a concern, i might carry a pistol as well.

ymmv.
 
NEF .17 HRM with Leupold 3.5x10. For ground squirrels. In winter, a KelTec PMR 30 just for chuckles and grins.
 
Someone recently posted a thread on the CZ 527 Carbine in .223. That's what I'd use. However, an SKS, or .30-30 lever gun would be fine also.
 
My Henry lever 22 goes out with me most days here on my place, but in the fall or the days my Henry isn't with me, my Krieghoff Semper goes with me.

Many times i have a CF handgun nearby too...

DM
 
I live on a farm and carry always where legal if I have clothes on.
Where is it illegal to carry on your farm!

I'm in NC and it is illegal to carry at a funeral, anywhere that charges admission, anywhere alcohol is sold and consumed, etc. etc.


I do leave the farm on occasion.
 
At my place, I keep a Western Field .22 bolt action (my son sometimes uses it) or if I'm going to be out, I have a Ruger GB in .223. When it was my grandfather's, he kept a Winchester 30-30 behind the seat of his truck.
 
It really depends on what I`m doing. Little stuff, can`t beat the 22. Bigger stuff, you pick-um. Not all agree on what to carry. Some like a "cannon." Some like something smaller.
 
I guess I've never seen any "little stuff" that concern me enough to make me carry a firearm. There are lots of more important things to worry about on my farm. Like black bear, mountain lions, bobcats, and two legged skunks - those are the reasons I carry. BTW my farm looks like this or at least the swamp part does:

Wildcat_photos_1.jpg

There's also lots of hills and bottom land. And lots of wildlife. Elk are moving in now along with wild hogs. But a main concern is that creek I'm crossing runs up to a "land deal for you" type place where lots of people who couldn't afford something really nice were made all sorts of insane promises about development and they were sold tiny little lots where they parked their tiny little campers and built their ratty little "camps". Those people decided that since they didn't get what they paid for that they should be allowed to use my farm to hunt. For years we averaged tearing down 15-20 deer stands a year. The game warden finally got through to the bozos that they couldn't just show up on our land and hunt. And wow what a fun bunch they were. They set up 50 yards from the barn with a high power rifle not even noticing that the house my cousin still lives in was right on the other side of that barn. And they didn't much like losing their expensive deer stands either. And they didn't like losing their private ATV trails that just happened to be on our land. And they didn't like losing their private "gardening" areas either. It was practically a range war for 20 years there. It hasn't gotten a whole lot better to be honest.

I don't set foot on the farm now without the firepower to handle the above stated wild critters AND the loco "something for nothing" crowd that wanted to steal what we've worked to keep for 150 years.

So at the very least I'm packing a .44 mag for bear duty although I really don't expect trouble but you just never know. My S&W 629 has a 8.5" barrel so it's good for about 175 yards of accuracy with me shooting it. I also often carry a 12 ga. loaded with slugs usually or an SKS. Sorry all you guys that like the 30-30 as a defensive round. I don't think it's in the same league as the 7.62 x 39 from an SKS. Semi-auto trumps the heck out of a lever gun. Now if I was dealing with brown bear I could well choose a heavy lever gun with a bear size cartridge capacity. But give me the suppressing fire capability of a semi-auto every time when dealing with my "neighbors". I haven't even gotten into the story of my other neighbor who tried to force a right of way across our property so he could create "Something For Nothing City II".

It's a hard cruel world friends. I used to carry a .22 just for plinking fun when I grew up on that farm. But times have changed. From the bear invasion to the skunk invasion there is lots of need for a much more effective weapon now. We knew all our neighbors at one time and we all respected each other's boundaries but wow has that ever changed.

BTW anyone who tells you there's no reason for a long range rifle for SD should move in with my cousin for a while. The "neighbors" rained a few rounds through his roof from about 300 yards away because of a confrontation over ATV trails. Trust me, I'm not going to hide under a rock while they shoot at me. I'm gonna shoot back with a rifle that will knock their eyeballs out at that distance.

The bottom line is I take several weapons with me when I go to the farm and I rarely get too far away from the truck where I have that variety of firepower. Sometimes I take the ATV around or I go for a hike and I'll pick one weapon or another. My .44 mag really seems to be an excellent choice. It's hard to even find enough open space to shoot more than 175 yards anyway. It ain't like it was when I was a kid and we worked that farm like crazy.
 
How could you go wrong with a Savage 99 lever gun in .243 or .308? To me, those represent the ultimate ranch rifle, especially when topped with decent glass.
 
I can think of lots of reasons to go with a different rifle Boattale. Those are nice rifles for sure but personally I don't want glass on something I might need for SD. I don't want glass on a rifle where I might have to fire on a charging wild animal either. And I want a semi-auto to get off a lot more rounds in a hurry. I know why people like lever guns. There's something nostalgic about them but they aren't modern designs. Some things they do very well but others they don't. It's not a huge difference but it is a difference when you can load 30 rounds of ammo that doesn't have to be blunt nose. The 7.62 x 39 is ballistically about equal but there's a reason the AK-47 is the most popular rifle ever built. I'd prefer an AK-74 if I was getting an AK (with full auto) but since I don't belong to a Mexican drug gang (according to the media they can buy full autos for cheap in the US all day long and "high powered" full autos at that :rolleyes: ) I can't buy full auto stuff without a big hassle so semi-auto will just have to do. And IMO the SKS is superior as a semi-auto rifle. YMMV as always but I think a modwern rifle is a better choice when you have to face what I face on my farm.
 
When I was living in TX I carried a Remington 700 in 6mm. It is a wonderful rifle and will handle all critters, great and small, that are found in the state of TX. After a while I switched to a ruger M-77 mkii in .223. I can't tell how much stuff I shot with this gun. I have also used a .243 and a .22-250. All of the previous are great rounds for TX. We always shot for distance and accuracy, so bolt actions ruled. We also always carried a Ruger 10/22. This got tons of use on smaller varmints. You might want to start with a scoped 10/22 and see what you get into. If you need a bigger gun, then you might look for a bolt action .243, .22-250, or .223.
 
Now, now CeeZee, you are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. You may well opine that semi auto is better than lever action and you may prefer 7.62x39 over 30-30 but you can't change the laws of physics. 170 grs at 2300 fps beats 150 grs at 2100 fps, every time ;-)

But seriously, sorry to hear of your trespasser woes. I only post against mounting stands on our land and allow ground hunting during bow and ML season. Still, every Fall I have to pull out several stands. For us merely annoying. Your situation does indeed sound almost like Range War days. Best of luck.
 
Yeah, its not for their success harvesting all game animals.

I have one somewhere but I have a lot of stuff I don't use.
 
I guess I've never seen any "little stuff" that concern me enough to make me carry a firearm. There are lots of more important things to worry about on my farm. Like black bear, mountain lions, bobcats, and two legged skunks - those are the reasons I carry. BTW my farm looks like this or at least the swamp part does:

Wildcat_photos_1.jpg

There's also lots of hills and bottom land. And lots of wildlife. Elk are moving in now along with wild hogs. But a main concern is that creek I'm crossing runs up to a "land deal for you" type place where lots of people who couldn't afford something really nice were made all sorts of insane promises about development and they were sold tiny little lots where they parked their tiny little campers and built their ratty little "camps". Those people decided that since they didn't get what they paid for that they should be allowed to use my farm to hunt. For years we averaged tearing down 15-20 deer stands a year. The game warden finally got through to the bozos that they couldn't just show up on our land and hunt. And wow what a fun bunch they were. They set up 50 yards from the barn with a high power rifle not even noticing that the house my cousin still lives in was right on the other side of that barn. And they didn't much like losing their expensive deer stands either. And they didn't like losing their private ATV trails that just happened to be on our land. And they didn't like losing their private "gardening" areas either. It was practically a range war for 20 years there. It hasn't gotten a whole lot better to be honest.

I don't set foot on the farm now without the firepower to handle the above stated wild critters AND the loco "something for nothing" crowd that wanted to steal what we've worked to keep for 150 years.

So at the very least I'm packing a .44 mag for bear duty although I really don't expect trouble but you just never know. My S&W 629 has a 8.5" barrel so it's good for about 175 yards of accuracy with me shooting it. I also often carry a 12 ga. loaded with slugs usually or an SKS. Sorry all you guys that like the 30-30 as a defensive round. I don't think it's in the same league as the 7.62 x 39 from an SKS. Semi-auto trumps the heck out of a lever gun. Now if I was dealing with brown bear I could well choose a heavy lever gun with a bear size cartridge capacity. But give me the suppressing fire capability of a semi-auto every time when dealing with my "neighbors". I haven't even gotten into the story of my other neighbor who tried to force a right of way across our property so he could create "Something For Nothing City II".

It's a hard cruel world friends. I used to carry a .22 just for plinking fun when I grew up on that farm. But times have changed. From the bear invasion to the skunk invasion there is lots of need for a much more effective weapon now. We knew all our neighbors at one time and we all respected each other's boundaries but wow has that ever changed.

BTW anyone who tells you there's no reason for a long range rifle for SD should move in with my cousin for a while. The "neighbors" rained a few rounds through his roof from about 300 yards away because of a confrontation over ATV trails. Trust me, I'm not going to hide under a rock while they shoot at me. I'm gonna shoot back with a rifle that will knock their eyeballs out at that distance.

The bottom line is I take several weapons with me when I go to the farm and I rarely get too far away from the truck where I have that variety of firepower. Sometimes I take the ATV around or I go for a hike and I'll pick one weapon or another. My .44 mag really seems to be an excellent choice. It's hard to even find enough open space to shoot more than 175 yards anyway. It ain't like it was when I was a kid and we worked that farm like crazy.
Well I was going to say a Lever gun in .22 cal. and maybe a judge for the crawling critters, but after Cee Zee's post , maybe a AK 47 and a few hand grenade's would be a better choice.lol
 
Depending on location. My trusty pre 64 model 94 30-30 or my AR. Then either my M&Pc or various 1911
 
Slow down Cee Zee.

The gear in your front-rack might not stop bears if it gets fouled with Swamp Mud.
 
For my ranchin horse ridin setup I went with a Winchester Model 92, a new Mirouku in 45 LC paired with a SAA Clone. Nice rifle I went with a large loop lever (yes I've been known to John Wayne cock it from time to time) in a 16" barrel. The year after I got it Winchester upped the barrel length to 20" which I would have rather had but oh well. My pistol and rifle use the same caliber so I've only got to pack one type of ammo, and it's a truly classic setup. I just recently got a Cimarron stainless model and it is a nicer pistol compared to the EMF I have had before.
 
Howa ranchland compact in 22-250 or 243 for the rifle. GP-100 or 686 for the sidearm. BTW I've lived on and worked a ranch all of my life. I have experience in this regard. Bolt actions are great. Lever actions are great also, a win 94 or marlin 336 is hard to beat as is a savage 99 or blr. As far as handguns go the revolvers can take the punishment this I know from experience, autos tend to get baby'ed and just don't feel as sturdy, revolvers typically have better triggers that make it easier to hit what you are aiming at quickly.
 
If we're talking pistol I think I'd take my CZ 75b, if we're talking rifle I'd take the mini14 ranch or the Marlin 30/30.
 
The gear in your front-rack might not stop bears if it gets fouled with Swamp Mud.

Hey I was STOPPED when my son took that photo. :) You can't get much slower than that unless you're backing up I guess.

Unfortunately it is a lot like a range war. No shots have been fired directly at people "yet" but they have been fired at houses that were occupied at the time. It's gang banger stuff really and that was what they had in the old west when it got right down to it.

BTW the only gear I had on the rack that day was a bottle of Diet Pepsi for killing thirst. It does a good job of that I guess. Maybe throw in some Mentos and spray the bad guys into submission. :D

But I seriously don't go there without protection now. It's like the people who couldn't get into the housing projects that live in that "camp ground" where they were only supposed to camp. I used to feel sorry for them after all the lies that were told to them but they should have known there was no way someone could sell $500 camp sites and then build swimming pools, golf courses, rec centers, riding trails etc. etc. etc.. They should have called it Scam City but for us it's been Troubleville from the start.

BTW I'd be happy to use a 30-30 if I could fire 30 rounds in 20 seconds like I can with the SKS I own. Yes I have a detachable and it works perfect before I get slammed for putting junked up bling on a perfectly good rifle. I wouldn't even put one on now though. Stripper clips are a much better way to go. My newer SKS will always use stripper clips.

I probably shouldn't do this but I'm gonna. The creek I'm crossing is called Wildcat Creek. And it earned it's name by actually having wildcats by the dozen. Now the wildcats walk on 2 legs though and they're more dangerous than ever. You can't make this stuff up. :(
 
Not surprisingly, the .30-30 and .357 seem to be the traditional answers, with a lot of .22s and a few .45 1911s thrown in, too. Yet, for the wicked world in which we now live, I will suggest something far less traditional. I think a good choice is an underfolder AK with a 20-round mag. Such rifles fold up to a little over two feet in length, and the shorter mag makes it a lot easier to carry. As a teen-ager, I walked the woods around my granddad's house with only a .22 Marlin or maybe a .22 magnum revolver. I wouldn't do that today. There are far too many "two-legged skunks" in the world now, to use the phrase of another poster, and many of these have no qualms with hurting or killing their fellow man.
 
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