What gun would this fictitious character use?

[TheArchDuke]

For my 3D animation class, we're designing a character for a "video game" (we're not actually making a game, we're just learning character concept and design).

Anyway, our character lives in an alternate past where the cold war wasn't so cold and the soviet union was more brutal and opressive than it actually was. It's 1989 and he's a romanian or other eastern european who is part of a group of freedom fighters and all that jazz. It's really detailed but I won't bore you with my terrible writing and historical inaccuracies.

I was wondering, what guns would someone from that time period and region shoot? Obviously it will involve AK-47s but I need a really cool handgun from that area/time period. Any suggestions?

Sorry for such a random thread

 

[lawson]

maybe a nickel plated Makarov?

 

[TheArchDuke]

Hmm yeah and and I know someone whoo has a makarov so I could use it as a reference.

How about this one?

That's pretty cool.

 

[Croyance]

"Or other Eastern European" - CZ-75
CZ-83
CZ-52
The Mak or Tokarev
Scorpion VZ61
Dragunov
An old Nagant - you use what is available.
Polish Radom

Okay, not all were handguns.

 

[TheArchDuke]

Oh he will definitely have a Dragunov at some point. Those are my favorite rifles (as far as looks go [never shot one{I live in California}]).


I never considered the CZ-75. How old are they?

EDIT: oh...1975. That's cool.

Thanks

 

[10 Ring Tao]

For me, the quintessential eastern european PDW isn't a pistol, its a machine pistol, ala the skorpion.

 

[Dr.Rob]

Captured Nazi Luger... grandpa fought so hard to rid this land of one opressor, only to be enslaved by another...

 

[Kor]

Have you considered maybe a Stechkin machine pistol? It's kinda funky-looking, and relatively obscure, so it hasn't lost it's "cool factor" through over-exposure...

 

[lawson]

also check out http://world.guns.ru one of our fellow members here runs it. he lives in Russia, so there is a large selection of russian weapons with pictures, specs, history, and descriptions.

they did a lot of experimentation with integrally silenced weapons. some neat stuff.

 

[Husker1911]

A natural. A Czech CZ75. Hades, even Jeff Cooper sang the praises of the CZ75 (a 9mm Parabelum, btw) in those days. They were sought after in this country, and illegally (or quasi-legally) imported into the states back then, back door importation through Canada. A D/A pistol that allowed cocked and locked carry!

 

[harvester of sorrow]

and the soviet union was more brutal and opressive than it actually was.

I'm not sure that's possible.

 

[Godfather]

Screw historical accuracy, go with a Gold Deagle. Make that two gold Deagles. Long slide, laser scope, .50 cal. And he carries them cleverly disguised as earrings, but a new USSR anti-bling law creates problem for his slammin' guages.

 

[The Drew]

There was a select fire CZ 75 that used a mag for a fore grip, and they still make the 25/26 round mags...

 

[Lonestar]

A Polish P-64, a Hungarian FEG?, Problem is 1989 in real life the soviet union was starting to collapse. Assuming the USSR was strong and oppressive, he would probably be stuck with a Russian weapon or something smuggled in from western Europe or the US.

 

[antsi]

CZ 75 would have been quite a "premium" pistol in the Soviet Bloc and 9mm Para ammo not easy to come by.

I'd say an underground type would be a lot more likely to get hold of a Makarov, or even a WWII-era Tokarev. Another possibility would be a Nagant revolver.

 

[Dain Bramage]

A fictional character needs a fictional gun. How about a Porbyrin 9.2mm from RED HEAT?

"This being most powerfullest handgun in world, and blowing head clean off to Siberia, do you feel lucky, comrade punk?"

 

[Justin]

Stechkin APS

600 RPM of select-fire, 20+1 goodness.

Or, for a more subtle approach you could always go with a PSM

 

[entropy]

Read Solzhynitsyn and see if you don't agree with harvester of sorrow. "The Gulag Archipelego" and "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" aren't exactly all fuzzy bunnys and candy canes, and all first-hand accounts, the second one semi-autobiographical.

I vote for the silenced Makarov.

 

[MachIVshooter]

Gotta go with the Select fire CZ75 or a Beretta 93R. Both were available by 1989, albeit unlikely that an Eastern bloc freedom fighter would be able to afford/obtain one. The Makarov, Tokarev, CZ 52 and CZ83 would probably be the most commonly used pistols for such folks.

 

[Wes Janson]

What about a PM-63 Rak? SAR's latest issue has a GREAT article on it. I'd love to own one

 

[Croyance]

There is also the issue of ammunition. I think that the CZ-75 would be my choice, but how much 9x19 is floating around the Soviet Union? Still, the Soviet Union had a lot of border length.
You use what you can get your hands on. If one resistance group had met up with Czech counterparts, exchanges could have been made.
It isn't like there were no Soviet advisors in Korea or Viet Nam, so a HiPower wouldn't be out of the question either.

 

[RustyShackelford]

Scorpian machine pistol or a Sketzen machine pistol

A cool sidearm could be the Checkosolvakian Scorpian machine pistol. It fired a small(.32/.380) Warsaw Pact round and could be shot full auto/semi. It was popular with the Viet Cong in SE Asia and used all over the USSR/Europe for many years. I'm not sure of it's origin or correct spelling of the name but I do know it's a nasty little MFer.

The USSR/Warsaw Pact also had a larger machine pistol called a Sketzen. It fired a small round too but had a longer barrel and looked more like a modern semi auto pistol of today. My spelling may be wrong and I know these Sketzen pistols were rare but I do know these weapons were used by USSR Spetnaz(spec ops) and some KGB officers.

For more details, I would research the Jane's Defense Weekly records and maybe the military/arms websites.

PS: the AK-74 is a larger rifle type weapon but is smaller than a AK-47. The AK-74s can be used in Urban areas/CQB scenes. A AK-74 is what OBL liked to tote around and was the weapon of the main bad guy in True Lies(1994), . I think the main USSR military commander(played by the excellent actor; William Smith) in the film: Red Dawn used a Scorpian machine pistol.
www.imdb.com

Rusty S

 

[Dmack_901]

It may not be the perfect gun popularity wise, but the PPSH really seems to fit into the rough, rebellious, lead slinging persona. Possibly with a sawed off buttstock.

 

[GunnySkox]

So far, I'd say Dmack_901 has the coolest suggestion. a PPSH-41 with a chopped-down buttstock (how's THAT for a mare's leg, chump change?, GunnySkox said to noone) is about as stylish as they come.

~GnSx

 

[trickyasafox]

give a twist and consider something american. sounds silly but how better to infuriate those you fight against but by utalizing the weapons of their main advesary.

oppressive Russian dictatorship? get under their skin with an original wwII 1911.