What happened to the National Park Service gun policy change?

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I know the comment period for the NPS gun policy change has now ended.

Does anyone know what the outcome was?

Are handguns now allowed to be carried in National Parks, in accordance with applicable state law?
 
2 different things happening here, the original DOI petition for rule change had a comment period which has expired, and we are awaiting DOI to issue the new rule.

Today a US Senate commitee passed out a bill to change the rule, perhaps as a spur to the DOI.

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The ability for law-abiding citizens to be able to carry firearms in
National Parks has moved forward a major notch today in the US Senate!!

While there are still many steps left to go, this bill passing out of
a Senate committee by such a huge **bipartisan** margin (18 to 5!!)
has got to send a very strong message to the Department of the
Interior, which is considering updating its regulations to allow carry
as well.

The message is clear: If DOI doesn't do it right and has too many
restrictions, then Congress will make them do it right!

The possibility of you and I legally carrying a gun for self-defense
in National Parks in the near future is looking brighter all the time!

Gun-rights are continuing to move forward everywhere I look. The
Liberty Bell is tolling. It is a great time to be an American.

Of course, this is no time to slow down or take anything for granted.
We must continue to fight with even more vigor and determination to
achieve the full restoration of the Second Amendment.

Here are two articles on the bill:

http://tinyurl.com/4pwnfu

Picnic Basket? Check. Bug Spray? Check. Ammo? Check.

Energy and natural resources are issues critically important to
America's future. Sound energy and resource policy can make our
environment cleaner, spur economic growth, and improve national
security.

With that in mind, it's perplexing that today the Senate Energy and
Natural Resources Committee debated and
approved a bill to allow loaded guns in national parks.

The bill would end the 25-year-old ban on carrying loaded guns in
national parks. (If state law banned gun possession in parks, the
state policy would supersede the new law and remain in effect.) The
bill passed the committee in an 18-5, according to CQPolitics.com.

The bill would accomplish the same goal as a Bush administration rule
the Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne proposed in April. Reg•Watch
thinks the Interior rule will be among the many rules the Bush
administration pushes through in its final months in order to secure
its ideological legacy.

Both the bill and the proposed rule are remarkably unnecessary. An
April Associated Press article explains:

There is no data to suggest that the public would be served by
allowing visitors to parks to possess concealed handguns, [Coalition
of National Park Service Retirees Chairman Bill] Wade and other
critics said. They cited statistics showing that national parks are
among the safest places in the country. The probability of becoming a
victim of a violent crime in a national park is 1 in more than 708,000
— less likely than being struck by lightning, the groups said.

On the other hand, Sen. Jim DeMint☼ (R-SC), unmoved by fact, said,
"The purpose of this bill is to protect innocent Americans from
violent crime in national parks," according to CQPolitics.com.

However, since Congress almost never actually passes legislation, the
Interior regulation is still the best bet for gun rights advocates
hoping to arm national parks. Stay tuned to Reg•Watch for updates.

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http://tinyurl.com/3jvfvu

Senate Panel Votes to Permit National Park Visitors to Carry Guns
With solid bipartisan support, a Senate panel approved legislation on
Thursday to allow loaded guns in national parks.

The Energy and Natural Resources Committee approved, 18-5, a draft
bill by Sen. Jim DeMint , R-S.C. It would allow people to bring loaded
guns into national parks and wildlife refuges unless state laws bar
them from doing so. Park Service regulations now allow guns only if
they are unloaded and stowed.

"The purpose of this bill is to protect innocent Americans from
violent crime in national parks," DeMint said.

Park advocacy groups immediately decried the move and warned it could
be far more difficult for park rangers to stop poaching. "America's
national parks shouldn't be made a political football in the gun
debate," said Bryan Faehner, associate director for park use at the
National Parks Conservation Association.

The push to allow firearms in the parks has been a rallying point for
the National Rifle Association. A non-controversial public lands
measure was held up for months when Tom Coburn , R-Okla.,
unsuccessfully tried to bring up a floor amendment on the same topic.

In response to requests from more than 50 senators, Interior Secretary
Dirk Kempthorne proposed a regulatory change this year to allow guns
in national parks if the state in which they are located permits them
in its state parks. The rule could become final before President Bush
leaves office.

DeMint's bill as drafted would allow individuals to carry guns in
national parks even if the state bars them in its own parks. Senators
agreed before approving the bill make the bill consistent with the
proposed regulation before bringing it to the floor.
 
"Park advocacy groups immediately decried the move and warned it could be far more difficult for park rangers to stop poaching."

Okay, I'm lost. Wouldn't the rangers still just go to the report from the fired gun? Or do they think they won't be able to hear the poachers over the barrage of gunfire from the CCW people? :banghead:
 
Why is it, that we have the 2A specifically in the BoR so that the government knows its an inalienable right yet they are by far the worst violator of our 2A?
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Why is it, that we have the 2A specifically in the BoR so that the government knows its an inalienable right yet they are by far the worst violator of our 2A?

Sadly it is not the only the 2nd that is being trampled by the government. Every branch of the government has acted in ways that essentially render elements of the constitution nugatory. As noted in the Federalist Papers, words on parchment alone are not sufficient to curb government excess or disregard for laws and rights.
 
The committee action was not good news.

If you notice after the vote they agree to "conform the law" to the DOI proposed regulation which contains the Rube Kempthorne "analogous state lands" language. This is not good because an administrative rule cannot trump a statutory law. Any law passed should simply defer to the state law, period.

This amended wording needs to be vehemently opposed for the law.

The regulation change comments are probably almost all posted online by now, including their capricious "reopened comment period". If they do what they are charged with doing they will review the comments and incorporate public sentiment into their final regulation. That would mean accepting the several thousand echoed comments recommending that DOI adopt regulations stripping the analogous state lands and 'concealed' from the changed regulation. As we know, government entities do what they want, not what they're supposed to.

The process isn't complete, but I would suggest if you haven't already, send inquiries to your congressional reps / senators and urge adopting of petitioner recommended language for the DOI rule and the proposed law.
 
Would this bill allow crossing NPS lands for hunting on national forest lands?
 
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