What has happened to The High Road?

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There's also a huge difference between a newbie who has decided he needs a boomstick for deer hunting and the gamerdude who is disturbed that everyone around him is worried about his sudden infatuation with guns...

Frankly, sometimes they're right.
 
RLsnow happened to the high road!!! bwahahaha :D

*chuckle* but seriously i dont think its THAT bad here, certanly better than most forums youl find on the net. and you adults (30+ years ;) ) can certanly be a lively bunch indeed.


PS: snow apologises for his spelling mistakes he is after all, just a norwegian kid.
 
It might not be a bad idea to take a break from the forums once in a while.

Due to my job, I like to keep current with things and trends, but it does wear on you sometimes.

I check in to about four forums on a regular basis, but if it becomes a grind or I find I dread signing on, I just stop and go move on. No big deal, just clear your head.

I also find that a steady mix of the same people isn't agood thing, either. It's beneficial to meet some new folks.
 
I guess I haven't been around long enough to know the difference. Hope my posts have been OK. This place is nothing like some of the sewers I have visited. (and left)
 
read what you want and let the other stuff go, I also am not a great speller or writer sorry just trying to talk with other people that have the same intrust in, the info is great and a little writing now and then, if i see some thing wrong i do not slam them for it, :)
 
I swear there must have been a group purchase of trauma plates and duct tape a year ago.

That's hilarious. I agree.

And I never knew that button was even there. Huh.

Anyway... I think it is mostly an infloux of young men, new to firearms in general, who haven't grown up with the respect for them that most of us have, and who aren't used to haveing to watch what they say on the internet. Also, we must somehow beat into their heads that the search button is their friend!
 
Perhaps the board has grown to a level that it has become much harder to moderate with the number of personel assigned those tasks. I belong to a BBQ website that has seen an exponential growth over the last few years and it was finally decided to solicite for others who felt they were able to, to be allowed to moderate. The Board owner put out the call in the open forums and then those who applied were looked at by the other Mods and assigned accordingly. It wouldn't have to be a baord wide issue, it could just be assigned by specific forums.

Has anyone discussed this with the opreator of THR?
 
As I am a Brit I don't understand all the posts and some of the language.However I have picked up some good tips,entered into a little political debate,and have defended my country on several occassions.Overall I enjoy the site,great to see people post from all over the world.
 
I've been here since the first day and I've noticed a decline not only in the maturity level of many posts(regardless of poster's age), but also in the quality of the responses in regards to the subject or question asked. I don't know the solution to the problem.

There are still a lot of mature, helpful folks here and I hope they stay. Good folks leaving never solves these problems. If you don't like the way things are going, stay and try to make it better.

ALot of people come from other gun forums where it's all right to cuss and just act a fool as long as you don't do it to each other. This may be a totally new place for them.

I think it's alright. If this was my forum, I'd let people cuss and talk crap and do whatever as long as it's not illegal or offends a person severely(that's subjective). But it's not my forum, so I follow the rules.
One of the things that made this forum different is it was a family friendly atmosphere. Not to put words in Oleg's mouth, but I believe the intent was to bring folks into the firearm community, including women and kids. It was meant to show that firearms enthusiasts can be helpful, considerate, polite folks, not the knuckledragging Neanderthals that the antigun community makes us out to be. There aren't a lot of places like that. And that is very unfortunate. It puts us in a bad light and proves the wrong people right.

There are a lot of forums out there that are men's clubs where you can kick back, say what you want, how you want, regardless of whether it offends anyone. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. But it doesn't mean every forum should be that way. There should be a place for folks to go and get away from that. A safe place to have a civil discussion or for the timid to ask a question.
 
If I want to mix it up a bit, with looser moderation, I go to AR15.com.

If I want more staid discussion I come here. Depends on my mood.

Both sites have very knowledgeable people.

The tone of a site has a lot to do with the administrator/moderators, as well as the members. Since it's their site, mods can make whatever rules they want. Members can choose to come or not.
 
Mazeman said:
Depends on my mood.

Very true, perhaps the deciding factor.

I know that I am once again switching around the forums that I attend. It has nothing to do with the individual members, it has to do with how the interaction affects me.

If you don't like a place, or you find it brings out negative aspects of your pesonality, then take a break.

In fact, this is the guiding factor on my membership here.
 
I think it comes down to what the Mods allow. Nothing off topic flies over at the m14forum. It is easily the best run forum of all the ones I frequent. Granted, it is for a very specific group of gunnies, as opposed to the broad, numerous, topic population here at THR. However the mods there simply don't allow anything that does not belong. It might behoove some of those here that are critical of the current "path" the discussions at THR are taking by looking at how the m14 boys do it.
 
read what you want and let the other stuff go, I also am not a great speller or writer sorry just trying to talk with other people that have the same intrust in, the info is great and a little writing now and then, if i see some thing wrong i do not slam them for it,

Ranger 58
I think you said it the best !

If you don't like the post or if you think it has been discussed to much .
Why don't you just skip it instead of being rude and also saying
do a search . How many of the things said here are that original ?

Bill
 
then there are topics like this that do not comply with the rules. This topic as it is has nothing to do with GUNS


Then same as with most forums its your preception. ONLY yours. As a new person comes in they read the topics and respond and read some more. They really get into it and think its the greatest thing. Then a year later they are reading the same subjects and thinking this sucks why do we keep talking about the same thing. Not realizing that when you were new someone else thought the same thing. Topics come and go. We will talk about the same thing all the time. You will get different views all the time. Whats important is to keep it going. Keep talking and sharing our 2nd ammendment rights. You could take a year off from THR then come back and read something and think that again. or come back and see some new stuff. People come and go, topics will come and go. Whats important about THR is that its here for us.
 
I was being slightly sarcastic in my response to the OP. :D

I do believe in the Red Triangle. It can be overused tho.
The Ignore and no response tactic works every time not instantly tho. It is a slow poison.

Education is the key. Big word with lots of niggling details. Easy to fubar.
 
It's not just new members who are to blame. And it's not the moderators. And it's not the old members. It's all of them, all of us. Those who have been around the longest have the greatest responsibility to educate and admonish if necessary. Those who are new should take some time to understand the culture of the place. And of course the moderators have their role to play, but there's only so many of them and their jobs are busy enough as it is.

It won't do any good to point fingers and assign blame. If we all step up and behave in ways that'd make Art's Grammaw proud this place will turn around in no time.
 
I've noticed it too. I usually just leave the thread and add the offending poster to my ignore list, but that dosen't help the problem. Guess I'll try calling in an air strike (red triangle). :)
 
"Before your account is confimed, bring me... a shrubbery."

Now, I don't care who you are, that's funny stuff.

I tend to skip over the threads that spiral out of control. They usually end up locked anyhow. I do really enjoy the threads that have a bit of humor running through them as there are some very funny people here on THR. The one thing that has started wearing me out is the folks that post just for the sake of posting with no real reason other than to raise their post count.:confused: I have seen folks post 1500-2000 times in six months. I can't imagine having that much to say in such a short time. Other than that, I let the other stuff roll off my back or ignore it. Problem people probably don't stay around long as it is.

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"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"
 
Well, one of the larger changes I've seen is an increase in "shoot first, and ask questions later" attitude:

Scenario: A car pulls up on your lawn, parks, and a large man walks up and starts trying to get in your front door, banging, kicking, and screaming incoherently.

Reply two years ago: Call the cops, and let them sort it out. He's probably drunk or high, and thinks his ol' lady has locked him out. And you need to move to a better class of trailer park.

Reply today: Shoot him! Shoot him! Shoot him! He's trying to get in your castle, and steal your Xbox!
 
Scenario: A car pulls up on your lawn, parks, and a large man walks up and starts trying to get in your front door, banging, kicking, and screaming incoherently.

Reply two years ago: Call the cops, and let them sort it out. He's probably drunk or high, and thinks his ol' lady has locked him out. And you need to move to a better class of trailer park.

Reply today: Shoot him! Shoot him! Shoot him! He's trying to get in your castle, and steal your Xbox!
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So true. i guess thats what gets me with all the "how many loaded firearms do you have in your house ready shoot anyone"

i mean i truely believe in my 2nd amendment rights. However it really makes you wonder when you see people who openly tell you they have a whole bunch of loaded firearms. Some ready to pull the trigger magazines fully loaded. I still believe the ammo is put away, the firearms are in the safe. I think the louiesville Baseball bat by the front door can take care of most things. Plus wont get me charged for an accidental shooting. Heck if you harm and intruder too much you can get charged now.
 
Natural Order.

Not just THR, Internet Communications as a whole are experiencing the same concerns

Stages of progression coupled with the stages of new users to a concept / tool.

1. Societal.
No offense, still the reality kids were raised and parents and adults mentored kids. Manners, respect, and behaved. It did not matter race, income level, education level, society was mentoring kids to be civil, and polite. In like turn when these kids became older, they were Mentors to the cycle of kids coming up.

2. Advances in Technology.
Early days of Internet, was limited to those in more Professional environments.
Military, Academia, Science and others were the pioneers and users of Computers and Internet access.

Computers were expensive and so was the time on Internet.
J.Q.Public could not afford all this.

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THR is experiencing what other IT related venues are experiencing- folks that were raised, not being mentored for what ever reason, with affordable computers with affordable Internet access.

Cyclic in regard to new folks coming to THR and having to repeat all over again the same replies to the same questions.

Those that have been mentoring and assisting new folks, sometimes have life matters to attend to and just are not online to assist.
Others "feel" it is time for those they Mentored in Online Discussions, to step up to the plate and Pass Forward as Passed to them with the new folks.

Granted, we have some spoilt brats that do not want to do the Searches, as Public Schools and Indoctrination have "mentored" them they do not have to do anything for themselves, and it is all about "me, me, me".

Reality is, we have an aging society, and some have legitimate physical limits.
They were raised with manners, being civil, polite and Mentoring to others in other genre'.

Computers and Internet and using Forum Software is a totally new concept, and some again have physical limits.

Take a person that was a small town, old country Doctor. He is not stupid, just he can ride a horse, ride in a wagon, to get to house in the sticks...
He has crossed a high creek to get to a house.
He just does not have the skills sets to use this newfangled technology - yet.

Take a Lady with a PhD, and she had bad car wreck, suffered a stroke, whatever.
She admits having a problem and sometimes she will mess up typing, and even admit she had bad days and best to not post as the medicines, or therapy make her cranky.


Folks have been run off.
Folks with a lot of quality information to share and pass forward just got fed up with un-civil, non-polite folks that while they really want what THR has to offer, they really want to be matriculated into the firearms community, have attempted to pass forward by parroting what TV, Movies, Video Games and whatever other input sources they have - and honest to goodness told person such as Pat Roger they were wrong.

Folks themselves want to grow. One cannot pass forward what they do not know.
So of the folks that rarely post, or have left, are educating themselves to grow even more...and hoping the ones they mentored, still participating on THR, are passing onto to the new folks that cycle in.


Kids.
Kids are our future.
Kids are not stupid.
Kids have the same rights as adults. COTUS and BoR says nothing about a person has to be so tall, and weigh so much to have these rights.

Kids read Internet with parents/ adults, just responsible parenting / mentoring.

Do you want your kid , grandkid, niece, nephew, baby sister, baby brother reading some of what is posted?
Why not?


If one is not part of the solution, one may be part of the problem.
- anon

MoOm! Do we have a Bastard in the house?
<mom runs to monitor to view THR>
Yes dear we have a Bastard file and Mill file, come on and I will show you the difference.
Great! Now can we mess with that small hand axe, I want to see if I can sharpen one!


"Uncle Steve, guess what mom and I did today?"
"What darlin'"
"Sharpened an axe with a Bastard file and got the neighbor to tell off me to mom for using a dirty word"

*grin*
 
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