What if you run into this cop...

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Hey, I've got an idea! Why don't we ask if we can have a separate, wholly new sub-forum (in the Social Situations forum, of course) dedicated to spotlighting all horrible law enforcement personnel behavior!

It could be titled: Bad Cops and Their Antics

Bad cops, bad cops, whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
 
that cop was way WRONG.

and that oufit just was'nt for him.

and the clown car as well
 
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Hey, I've got an idea! Why don't we ask if we can have a separate, wholly new sub-forum (in the Social Situations forum, of course) dedicated to spotlighting all horrible law enforcement personnel behavior!

It could be titled: Bad Cops and Their Antics

Bad cops, bad cops, whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
I like it. But maybe it should be at APS, unless the cop is wearing a gun.
 
Don't a lot of teenagers now a days when they accidentally run into someone or step on a foot say something like, "I'm sorry dude! That was an accident!"

The part I didn't like is when the officer went over to the other kid and asked him if he was recording. When in public, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. Anyone can be recording you. You don't reasonably expect that no bystanders will be watching. I thought that the freedom of speech and press was so that people could expose what the government was doing, not for pornography purposes. Even though I like police officers mostly in general and think they need to become tougher with people, I think that it would be great if they made it a felony to a police officer if he or she takes away a video camera of a bystander who's recording, as long as they're not doing it in an obstruction of justice "harass the officer" way but doing it as a bystander to the side. I think they should be tasing people more often and cracking down on crime without being so scared of stepping on toes, but I don't think they should be bullies or taking away video cameras. He should have just handcuffed the kids or given them citations rather than kicking that one kid, telling the other he was going to smack, etc.
 
I could watch this video all day long. Yes, the officer was wrong, and yes he must be punished, BUT having dealt with at least 100 or more young skate boarders jut like that kid, I completely understand why that officer lost it. I've run the same group of skateboarders off private property 3 or more times in the span of an hour. They always act as if they had no idea that skateboarding on private property was wrong and they act as if maybe you weren't serious the first three times you told them to move on.

As they walk away they yell back "Thanks you goose stepping *****!!!" "Skateboarding is NOT a crime"!!!! They even have bumper stickers to that effect.

too large a percentage of young skateboarders feel that they have the absolute god given right to skateboard wherever they damn well please. The right to knock over women and children as they "shred" the mall. They skate off steps out into traffic and you can be damn sure that if you hit them, mommy and daddy will sue. They may not win, but damage will be done.

This officer was 100% wrong and I loved every damn minute of it.
 
What if you run into this cop...
and he doesnt like your attitude? What if he tries to take your gun like this kids skateboard?

I will defend myself and my property accordingly.
 
Although I can sympathize with the cop's frustration over having to deal with adolescent wiseacres, I would also wager that Officer Rivera's over-the-top aggression was a direct result of all the beatings he endured in grade school because of his Baby Huey body and his despicable Daffy Duck lisp.
 
too large a percentage of young skateboarders feel that they have the absolute god given right to skateboard wherever they damn well please. The right to knock over women and children as they "shred" the mall. They skate off steps out into traffic and you can be damn sure that if you hit them, mommy and daddy will sue. They may not win, but damage will be done.

This sounds like a Brady Bunch argument.
Where is this happening?
Where are your numbers?
Are they statistically relevant?
Are you making this up as you go along?

For Pete's sake, they can't stay in all day playing Xbox, they can't spend all day on the internet, they can't hang out at 711, they can't skate... you know what that leaves for them to do?

Drugs.
 
For Pete's sake, they can't stay in all day playing Xbox, they can't spend all day on the internet, they can't hang out at 711, they can't skate... you know what that leaves for them to do?
There are plenty of places they can skate. There are also places where it is not permitted. It is not up to them to make the determination as to whether skateboarding is allowed in a particular place.

I am tired of the little ruffians risking damage to me by their careless skating.

That does not mean I get to slap them up side the head for it.
 
The cop way over reacts. I work in a professional office where co-workers sometimes call each other "dude" or "man." I think the real reason the cop went ballistic is his career. Just think, a 17-year veteran and he gets sent to do skateboard patrol in the park. He pulls up in a dinky-mobile that everybody must laugh at, and then he wears this ugly uniform. It's no wonder he went off.
 
I like it. But maybe it should be at APS, unless the cop is wearing a gun.

Isn't that a large part of the problem? I don't like being bullied at all. I like being bullied by armed people even less.

The cop in this incident was clearly very much on the very outside edge of in control. I'd like to think that no one would just lost it to the point of drawing on a kid for being obnoxious, but this cop is awfully, awfully close to completely out of control.
 
Just think, a 17-year veteran and he gets sent to do skateboard patrol in the park. He pulls up in a dinky-mobile that everybody must laugh at, and then he wears this ugly uniform. It's no wonder he went off.
You do have to wonder why such an unprofessional looking uniform was chosen. The golf cart i can kind of understand. But I think I would have a hard time not laughing if I saw a cop walking around in such garb.

I don't even like seeing cops in shorts. It just does not look like a uniform to me. Don't care about caps or ties, or long sleeve versus short sleeve shirts, but shorts just don't look like a uniform to me. bike patrols it is understandable. but anywhere else, i just don't get it. there are lightweight trousers that are almost as comfortable when it is warm out as shorts are.

Last summer, my FIL passed away. The local PD escorted the funeral procession from the church to the cemetery. One of the cops waiting at the church for the procession was wearing shorts. he also had on a bullet resistant vest over his uniform shirt that obscured most of it, with all kinds of nifty pockets and gadgets hanging off it. looked really odd in shorts.
 
I find it scary that the kid had to prevent the officer from knowing he was being filmed. Many people do get 'punished' for filming officers and I think there should be laws passed with serious (IE, felony) consequences for officers that illegally suppress filming of incidents...

I've almost thought of following local officers around with a video camera (not 'in there face' far enough away to not interfere) and try and catch them doing 'things'. The local cops here are U-Cops so they have all the Reno 911 type things going on. My guess is I would soon find myself a felon drug dealer from some drugs planted on me....
 
The local cops here are U-Cops so they have all the Reno 911 type things going on.
Whats a "U-cop"?

My guess is I would soon find myself a felon drug dealer from some drugs planted on me....
I doubt they would be willing to take the chance of carrying that much dope to incriminate you. But I have always been suspicious of the incredibly small amounts of drugs that people are sometimes charged with. A guy here got charged not real long ago for supposedly having two seeds on the floor of his car. I don't know how big pot seeds are, but unless they are distinctive in some way, how would one even know what they are?
 
There is a way to stop this and all other illegal activities that police engage in.

If a police officer is found guilty of violating the Constitutional Rights of a citizen, 5 officers at random from his/her department will be selected to do 2-5 years in prison in general population, while the violator keeps his/her job.

I believe ALL of the bad apples would be strongly encouraged to leave, or a lot of "gun cleaning" accidents would ensue.

You see, most of the "good " officers know who the bad apples are, this would help them make the right decision in regards to the "thin blue line " crap.
 
5 officers at random from his/her department will be selected to do 2-5 years in prison in general population, while the violator keeps his/her job.
somehow that does not seem very fair, or real productive.

Maybe the real answer is to institute strong civilian control over police operations. But that has its down sides too. I suspect just a little more openness in the way complaints are handled and discipline is dispensed would do a lot, along with a more independent investigation of such complaints. Right now most of the time the people doing the investigations have a strong incentive to find that the complaint is unwarranted, for multiple reasons.

You see, most of the "good " officers know who the bad apples are, this would help them make the right decision in regards to the "thin blue line " crap.
Most employees know who the bad eggs are. But there is no good way to rat on your fellow employee(s), without negative consequences to yourself. A lot of people might know that Joe the fork lift driver is a pot head, putting his fellow employees at risk, but until he has an accident, its unlikely anyone will do anything about it. No different with cops, just an even stronger urge to stick together.
 
For Pete's sake, they can't stay in all day playing Xbox, they can't spend all day on the internet, they can't hang out at 711, they can't skate... you know what that leaves for them to do?

Drugs.

My apologies, I forgot about the rampant drug problem among our youth during the 50's 40's and 30's before that advent of the Skateboard.
 
This poor excuse for a public employee actually bullies children for respect after driving up in a clown car dressed like that.
 
I watched that youtube video you had and i'm convinced that that cop could be either sued, arrested, or at least restricted pay for excessive use of force. Did you see him throw that kid to the ground. If it was my 14 year old and i had seen it i might visit that cops house myself if my kid didn't beat the sh*t out of the officer..lol.

But really tho in response to your question i'd follow everything the cop says and when you get home unarmed call the local PD tell them what happened and that you'd like to follow up a complaint and also that you want your firearm back. If they don't comply then you break out the lawyers and sue the cop and possibly the PD for not caring about the issue. Try to get lots of money out of the cop tho so you don't have to suck the PD dry.
 
Whats a "U-cop"?

University cop... They generally look like Cartman. (Respect mah authoritah!)

Sometimes they ride little bicycles with short tights.
 
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