What is really going on here?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Hurricane, Jan 9, 2013.

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  1. xfyrfiter

    xfyrfiter Member

    Mar 17, 2010
    NW New Mexico
    DWI drivers kill more people than all guns combined yet we still have DRIVE UP LIQUOR SALES and BARS HAVE PARKING LOTS and we let dwi drivers back out on the street 10 and 15 dwi's later we might lock them up for a few years but they are still out in 3 to 5 years at the most and it is still called an accident rather tha murder or conspiracy to commit murder with a deadly weapon. Ok mods rant is over please feel free to delete , just trying to show the disparity between firearms and other methods of mass destruction .
  2. RetiredUSNChief

    RetiredUSNChief Member

    Jul 9, 2012
    SC (Home), VA (Work)
    Contrary to popular belief, there IS a lot of logic behind an "assault weapons ban". To understand the logic, you need to look at the ultimate goal of those pushing for it.

    The ultimate goal is to effectively remove the right to own firearms by law abiding citizens. Since that cannot be done outright, it has to be done progressively. And the starting point always hinges around people's fears and ignorances, because fear and ignorance make it easier to maniuplate people. The bigger the fear and greater the ignorance, the easier it is.

    "Assault weapons", as defined by the factions pushing for more gun control, are defined more by appearance than by actual function. Package a gun in a form which LOOKS deadly and menacing and you have something that can be easily feared. If it LOOKS deadly, then by definintion it MUST BE deadly.

    Again, there is an inherent logic in this. This is because it is a major part of our primal instinct to interpret things around us by how they look. If something LOOKS threatening, then we naturally tend to react like it IS threatening.

    With respect to the "assault weapons" being targeted by the gun control factions, a great deal of effort has been made in not only marketing weapons which are deliberately patterned on actual military assault weapons, but we have tons of very popular movies and entertainment out there which very much glorify the use of assault weapons violent actions, whether representatived of military combat or otherwise.

    So what we have with these "assault weapons" being targeted by the gun control people are weapons which LOOK deadly and are constantly being PORTRAYED as deadly military assault weapons.

    TRANSLATION: An easy target in which to affect increased gun control legislation.

    From this starting point things move in steps, progressing from one thing to another by association.

    High capacity magazines? Bad by association with military combat weapons.

    Semi-automatic pistols? Bad by association with military combat weapons.

    Ammunition above certain quantities? Bad by association.

    Ammunition with certain features, like jacketing, hollow points, and teflon? Bad by association.

    Private sales of firearms and ammunition? Bad by association with secrecy criminal activities.

    Pistols? Easily hidden on one's person, therefore threatening and bad by association.

    More than a certain number of firearms? That's an arsenal and therefore bad by association.

    Don't want to tell people you have firearms or ammunition? (Anti-registration) You must have a hidden agenda, bad by association.


    It's well grounded in inherent human behavior, behavior that harkens more to our animal instincts than our intellectual capabilities. Behavior of the masses, which is in many ways more predictable and easier to manipulate than behavior of individuals.

    To ignore this, make light of it, or otherwise dismiss it is to underestimate the power and capabilities of these people.
  3. MudPuppy

    MudPuppy Member

    Jan 11, 2005
    UK and Texas
    Bingo. It's just the next step.
  4. bldsmith

    bldsmith Member

    Jul 7, 2012
    Salem Or
    IIRC the number used in the ar picture vs hammer was for ALL rifles not just AR's. So the number of homicides with AR's is much much lower.
  5. HorseSoldier

    HorseSoldier Member

    Jul 13, 2006
    Anchorage, AK
    Homicides with ARs, AKs, and any other scary black rifles tend to be pretty low, though given the body counts involved, a significant chunk of those killed with military-style rifles and carbines are associated with spree killers. Media sensationalism is such that those deaths are, in turn, massively over-represented in the news compared to other single victim homicides and other stories that don't sell as well.
  6. mbt2001

    mbt2001 Member

    Dec 5, 2005
    I think it is worth mentioning that the Brady Bunch, what ever they call themselves now, are funded by the Joyce Foundation.... That is George Soros. They do not have membership really, they just have a few elites and a media mouthpiece that they use to indoctrinate the public.
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